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<blockquote data-quote="Murrdox" data-source="post: 936881" data-attributes="member: 10131"><p>It might have been the Sage, or it might have been a chat with one of the developers where it was stated that figments count as creatures for the purpose of targeting.</p><p></p><p>Hypersmurf goes by the standard that if the target for a spell is not valid, the spell fizzles. This is why he thinks Magic Missle fails to destroy images, because if you cast the spell at an image, it is not a valid target, and it fails. The spell never actually goes off.</p><p></p><p>I am of the belief that I can CAST magic missle at absolutely anything I want to... and if I happen to cast it at an inanimate object, the missles still pop into existance and streak at the target... but nothing at all happens when they strike it. This goes for any spell I cast at an invalid target.</p><p></p><p>Even with Hypersmurf's interpretation of casting and targeting, I still don't see how he can say Message destroys images, when "striking" the image is clearly defined as a requirement for destroying one of them.</p><p></p><p>The statement in the FAQ that targeted spells (Magic Missle) can destroy images cannot be taken by itself. It is obviously meant as a qualifier to spells that "strike" the images without attack rolls.</p><p></p><p>By Hyper's definition, Magic Missle is the ultimate illusion detector... no matter what spell level the illusion is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Murrdox, post: 936881, member: 10131"] It might have been the Sage, or it might have been a chat with one of the developers where it was stated that figments count as creatures for the purpose of targeting. Hypersmurf goes by the standard that if the target for a spell is not valid, the spell fizzles. This is why he thinks Magic Missle fails to destroy images, because if you cast the spell at an image, it is not a valid target, and it fails. The spell never actually goes off. I am of the belief that I can CAST magic missle at absolutely anything I want to... and if I happen to cast it at an inanimate object, the missles still pop into existance and streak at the target... but nothing at all happens when they strike it. This goes for any spell I cast at an invalid target. Even with Hypersmurf's interpretation of casting and targeting, I still don't see how he can say Message destroys images, when "striking" the image is clearly defined as a requirement for destroying one of them. The statement in the FAQ that targeted spells (Magic Missle) can destroy images cannot be taken by itself. It is obviously meant as a qualifier to spells that "strike" the images without attack rolls. By Hyper's definition, Magic Missle is the ultimate illusion detector... no matter what spell level the illusion is. [/QUOTE]
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