Metacreative for Psion/Wizards?

[Jeph]

Under the Psionic Feat rules, it says that only Psionic characters may take them. The Metacreative feat (a Psionic one) allows the taker to choose one Item Creation feat; when creating items of that kind, multiply gp/xp costs by 75%. Now, question:

Wizard 5. Upon his next level up, this character decides to take a level of Psychic Warrior. May he, as his 6th level feat, take Metacreative (Scribe Scroll)? It seems to work: Psionic character, item creation feat.

Opinion?

 

[Merlion]

Theres an easier way...Magical Artisan from FRCS

 

[Spatzimaus]

Metacreative was officially errata'd long ago, and by "errata", I mean "entirely changed". Well, actually "entirely changed back" since it originally worked like it currently does and was changed right before PsiHB was printed to be a boring copy of Magical Artisan (FRCS).

Confused yet?

The current version of Metacreative simply lets you create magic items as if your caster level was 1 higher, but with cost based on your true caster level.

That is, if you want to make a Fireball wand, your minimum caster level is 5. It'd do 5d6 damage. If you want 7d6 Fireballs, you make a level 7 one at a 40% higher cost.
With Metacreative, for the cost of that level 7 wand you'd create one doing 8d6 damage and having slightly longer range.

This doesn't help much with arms, armor, or Wondrous items that don't mimic spells, but it might really help for wands/dorjes/staves/drilbus/tattoos/scrolls/potions/etc.

Magical Artisan (FRCS) does what you're looking for. It's weak enough that I've had no problems integrating it into non-FR campaigns.

 

[Staffan]

Personally, I use the Magical Artisan version. The other one is just too stupid to use a feat on.

 

[Destil]

The intention of the original metacreative feat was to allow the user to create psionic items at the same cost as a wizard, since after 1st level the caster level would be forced to be 1 level higher. It makes a dojure of fly and a wand of fly the same cost.

Magical Artisan is simply intended to make item creation more efficent.

Really, there's no reason not to make a Psionic Artisan feat as well as creative, and allow the effects to stack (if you allow Magical Artisan, that is).

 

[Staffan]

The intention of the original metacreative feat was to allow the user to create psionic items at the same cost as a wizard, since after 1st level the caster level would be forced to be 1 level higher. It makes a dojure of fly and a wand of fly the same cost.

Magical Artisan is simply intended to make item creation more efficent.

Really, there's no reason not to make a Psionic Artisan feat as well as creative, and allow the effects to stack (if you allow Magical Artisan, that is).

My point is that requiring a feat for the psion to make items at one caster level lower makes for a very weak feat: for second-level powers you get the same discount as magical artisan (CL 3 instead of 4) but the item becomes weaker in the process (on account of having a lower caster level). For more powerful items the discount becomes even lower (17% for 3rd-level powers, 12% for 4th-level powers, 10% for 5th-level powers, 8% for 6th level powers, 7% for 7th level powers, 6% for 8th and 9th level powers).
Given the option between "Psionic Artisan" and "Fixed metacreative", anyone with half a brain would take Psionic Artisan.