Multiple multiclassing into the same class

[Neonchameleon]

Can you take multiple multiclass feats into the same class - for instance two of the Warlord feats that give your party Action Point benefits?

The case against: When you have a multiclass feat you count as a member of the class you've multiclassed into. And you can't multiclass into your own class. Also multiclass feats are more powerful than regular feats, so need restricting.

The case for: You count as a member of the class but it isn't your own class. And if the case against held, by multiclassing into warlord you would count as a member of the warlord class and therefore you wouldn't meet the feat pre-requisites. So by RAW assuming the case against holds you can't take any multiclass feats at all. Oh, and it's fun to be able to determine the amount you multiclass. Finally there's no harm allowing people good ways of taking skill training.

I believe the CB says yes - but that's hardly authoritative.

 

[Larrin]

Seeing as some multiclass feats have the prerequisite that you've already taken multiclassing in that class, and do not indicate that this is an exception,I think its safe to say you can. From Martial Power:

Battle Acumen [Multiclass Fighter]

Prerequisite: Any multiclass fighter feat, paragon multiclassing as a fighter
Benefit: You gain the fighter’s Combat Superiority class feature.

You could argue exception based design, but I betting its not. You can load up on feats for the same multiclass, its how you multiclass in 4e, and limiting you to just one 'level' (feat) of multiclass is even more punishing that paragon multiclassing.....

 

[keterys]

Yeah, you can, for the reasons you note. In some cases you even have to

It's not a bad way to make your allies APing pretty solid, or pick up some other interesting tricks.

 

[the Jester]

Sure, nothing prohibits it.

I get the "argument against," but that would mean that once you multiclass into (say) warden, you couldn't take any more warden multiclass feats, which would defeat the purpose.

 

[AbdulAlhazred]

It revolves around rather subtle, but apparently RAW, interpretations of the wording on PHB1 p208.

"There are two restrictions on your choice of a class-specific multiclass feat. First, you can't take a multiclass feat for your own class. Second, once you take a multiclass feat, you can't take a class-specific feat for a different class."

and then

"A character who has taken a class-specific multiclass feat counts as a member of that class for the purpose of meeting prerequisites for taking other feats and qualifying for paragon paths."

Now, "prerequisites" are always specifically stated in the description of a feat. The general text on p208 is not a 'prerequisite', it is a separate rule. Thus for the purposes of that rule (and all other general rules) you are NOT a member of the multiclass. Thus the 1st restriction in the first quote above does not apply to your multiclass. Therefor you CAN take a 2nd multiclass feat, but the 2nd restriction means you can only take it in the SAME class as the first one.

There is another subtle point here, which is that you only count as your multiclass for ONE PURPOSE, meeting the PREREQUISITES of other feats and PPs. In NO OTHER WAY are you a member of the multiclass. Not even for purposes of meeting any requirements in the TEXT BODY of feats! This last has generally been ignored in the context of feat text, but now and then it can be significant.

In any case, CB is correct, you can stack up as many MC feats as you want in a single class. As noted this can be pretty useful for some builds.