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Message: <blockquote data-quote="timbannock" data-source="post: 4626810" data-attributes="member: 17913">While DanmarLOK has a great by-the-numbers analysis, it's worth stressing the fact that the PCs are outnumbered in that first encounter.  Although the XP budget is fine, having seven on four is a lot more harrowing than it might otherwise appear.If the players don't know to take out those Minions right away, then you're talking seven attacks on the PCs each round vs. four against the baddies.  Those three extra attacks will add up fast unless the Players really work on bringing a badguy or two down each round.  That's not easy if the players are not tactically minded.Hell, my players have been playing D&D for years and years (some as many as 20 years!) and they still don't always concentrate their attacks when they should.</blockquote>