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<blockquote data-quote="Alcamtar" data-source="post: 224631" data-attributes="member: 3842"><p>From the description of Reduce:</p><p></p><p>"Multiple magical effects that reduce size do not stack."</p><p></p><p>Still, the Shrink Item spell all by itself reduces weight by a factor of 2000 (one ton becomes one pound), so a man (or elf) could still easily carry 30-40 tons in a backpack.</p><p></p><p>Tenser's Floating Disk can carry 100 tons of shrunken material per caster level; since it takes a 7th level caster to cast Shrink Item, he could carry 700 tons on a floating disk.</p><p></p><p>A heavy horse (like a clydesdale) can carry 400 tons as a medium load, and can drag 3000 tons. An elephant can carry 1000 tons as a medium load.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, I think your player is being very creative and you should let him go with it. Granted, this is going to transform the campaign world, but it *is* the logical consequences of D&D's magic system, whether the rules admit it or not. If you don't want this sort of thing, my initial reaction is you need to either change the magic system or play a different game.</p><p></p><p>I'd suggest reading _The_Magic_of_Recluce_ for some good ideas on a scientific and logical approach to magic, as well as some potential drawbacks and limitations. In that book, there ARE steam-powered iron dreadnoughts shaped by magic, but the world still has a fantasy feel to it.</p><p></p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alcamtar, post: 224631, member: 3842"] From the description of Reduce: "Multiple magical effects that reduce size do not stack." Still, the Shrink Item spell all by itself reduces weight by a factor of 2000 (one ton becomes one pound), so a man (or elf) could still easily carry 30-40 tons in a backpack. Tenser's Floating Disk can carry 100 tons of shrunken material per caster level; since it takes a 7th level caster to cast Shrink Item, he could carry 700 tons on a floating disk. A heavy horse (like a clydesdale) can carry 400 tons as a medium load, and can drag 3000 tons. An elephant can carry 1000 tons as a medium load. Frankly, I think your player is being very creative and you should let him go with it. Granted, this is going to transform the campaign world, but it *is* the logical consequences of D&D's magic system, whether the rules admit it or not. If you don't want this sort of thing, my initial reaction is you need to either change the magic system or play a different game. I'd suggest reading _The_Magic_of_Recluce_ for some good ideas on a scientific and logical approach to magic, as well as some potential drawbacks and limitations. In that book, there ARE steam-powered iron dreadnoughts shaped by magic, but the world still has a fantasy feel to it. Mike [/QUOTE]
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