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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 827662" data-attributes="member: 2067">To hopefully negate this end of the argument:The difference is that wizards certainly *need* a kind of lore to learn new spells...and clerics can generally live their entire lives without bothering a musty tome. A mutliclass cleric/wizard only needs wizard lore, so to speak...facts, traditions, beliefs, and knowledge on the arcane and occult. This increases their wizard abilities. But their cleric abilities don't need to have lore -- they could get them just by rubbing a polished holy symbol at night...Now, the flavor for Mystic Theurges would tend to indicate that they are interested in the priestly version of Lore, even if they don't have to be. They want to acquire facts, traditions, and beliefs about divine magic and mysticism. They want to acquire knowledge thruogh education and experience (on divine and philosophical matters).THERE. The MT has flavor. It's a priest interested in divine lore. And since lore is the bread and butter of a wizard, that also helps the wizard side. It sees even arcane magic as an instrument of the divine.Now, how good that flavor is, is largely a matter of (I guess) whether you like the PrC or not....<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Okay. Now we have definitions of Theurgy and Lore. We've shown that the MT has some flavor (at least as much as the Fighter class does...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />). Everything after this point is largely personal opinion and cannot be proven, so I think the conversation will go a lot smoother if we don't try. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />(Apu)Thankyoucomeagain!(/Apu)</blockquote>

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