Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
NAD - which one is attacked the most ?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="firesnakearies" data-source="post: 5177355" data-attributes="member: 71334"><p>For kicks, I just went through all of <em>Keep on the Shadowfell</em> and <em>Prince of Undeath</em> (the lowest and highest level published 4E modules, respectively) and added up all of the creatures/traps that attacked each defense.</p><p></p><p>Interesting results.</p><p></p><p>In <em>Keep on the Shadowfell</em> (the revised version), I found that MOST creatures just attacked AC. As for the other defenses, these were the tallies:</p><p></p><p>Fortitude: 10</p><p></p><p>Reflex: 23</p><p></p><p>Will: 2</p><p></p><p>Interestingly, every one of those creatures that attacked Fortitude, except for ONE, <em>also</em> attack Reflex. Also, the two things that attacked Will were both in the very last encounter, so there wasn't a single Will attack through the whole adventure prior to the end boss fight.</p><p></p><p>But most things only attacked AC, and I felt like the adventure had a very representative variety of low-level 4E monsters.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Prince of Undeath</em> was VERY different.</p><p></p><p>In this one, nearly every single creature attacked at LEAST one of the NADs, and many of them attacked more than one of them. Here were the tallies:</p><p></p><p>Fortitude: 81 (50 non-minion)</p><p></p><p>Reflex: 96 (59 non-minion)</p><p></p><p>Will: 33</p><p></p><p>Those numbers for Fortitude and Reflex include the 31 and 37 minions, respectively, who attacked those defenses. So if you don't count minions, it's 50 against Fortitude and 59 against Reflex.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, judging just from these "archetypal" modules at the lowest and highest levels of play, it's clear that Reflex is by far the most common at low levels, and slightly more common at high levels. Will is almost non-existent at low levels, and still significantly outnumbered at high levels. I was surprised by this latter fact, expecting to see a lot more Will attacks at the upper level.</p><p></p><p>These numbers are not "weighted" at all based on attacks from elites or solos, so that might skew the results if such an analysis was performed. (For example, the Empowered Orcus at the end of <em>E3</em> only counts as 1 under Fortitude, but some more mathematical breakdown of the "significance" of each attacker would probably count him as more.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, there you go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="firesnakearies, post: 5177355, member: 71334"] For kicks, I just went through all of [I]Keep on the Shadowfell[/I] and [I]Prince of Undeath[/I] (the lowest and highest level published 4E modules, respectively) and added up all of the creatures/traps that attacked each defense. Interesting results. In [I]Keep on the Shadowfell[/I] (the revised version), I found that MOST creatures just attacked AC. As for the other defenses, these were the tallies: Fortitude: 10 Reflex: 23 Will: 2 Interestingly, every one of those creatures that attacked Fortitude, except for ONE, [I]also[/I] attack Reflex. Also, the two things that attacked Will were both in the very last encounter, so there wasn't a single Will attack through the whole adventure prior to the end boss fight. But most things only attacked AC, and I felt like the adventure had a very representative variety of low-level 4E monsters. [I]Prince of Undeath[/I] was VERY different. In this one, nearly every single creature attacked at LEAST one of the NADs, and many of them attacked more than one of them. Here were the tallies: Fortitude: 81 (50 non-minion) Reflex: 96 (59 non-minion) Will: 33 Those numbers for Fortitude and Reflex include the 31 and 37 minions, respectively, who attacked those defenses. So if you don't count minions, it's 50 against Fortitude and 59 against Reflex. So, judging just from these "archetypal" modules at the lowest and highest levels of play, it's clear that Reflex is by far the most common at low levels, and slightly more common at high levels. Will is almost non-existent at low levels, and still significantly outnumbered at high levels. I was surprised by this latter fact, expecting to see a lot more Will attacks at the upper level. These numbers are not "weighted" at all based on attacks from elites or solos, so that might skew the results if such an analysis was performed. (For example, the Empowered Orcus at the end of [I]E3[/I] only counts as 1 under Fortitude, but some more mathematical breakdown of the "significance" of each attacker would probably count him as more.) So, there you go. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
NAD - which one is attacked the most ?
Top