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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5146251" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Those articles would have been nicer if he had addressed two issues that still vex me a bit to this day:</p><p></p><p>1) He says a caster can automatically disbelieve his own illusions, but more practically, what if the caster wants to belive his illusion? The SRD says a creature can choose ot fail its save if it wants, so I always rule the caster can. But I've had some people vehemently deny that my illusion caster could say...automatically get the full armor class bonus from a shadow conj. Greater Mage Armor. Be nice to have an "official" word of support on allowing auto belief.</p><p></p><p>2.) Any enemy spellcaster could presumably roll Spellcraft when you cast an illusion spell in its presence, or even upon experiencing the effects of an already cast illusion. With a fairly easy DC, spellcraft says the caster then knows what spell it is, and thus an illusion. I find that unacceptable in just how badly it cripples the usefulness of illusions (many mid to high CR monsters have spellcraft; too many also have True Seeing, but that's an entirely separate gripe). Has this ever been addressed? There's a fun skill trick to play with this in C.Scoundrel, but that's only once/encounter and has pre-reqs some casters are very unlikely to reach. Anything else?</p><p>(If a PC makes the spellcraft DC but fails to disbelieve or does not interact with the illusion, my default response is to either pretend he failed the spellcraft roll and can't ID it or to bs some spell similar to what the illusion is mimicking if possible)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5146251, member: 35909"] Those articles would have been nicer if he had addressed two issues that still vex me a bit to this day: 1) He says a caster can automatically disbelieve his own illusions, but more practically, what if the caster wants to belive his illusion? The SRD says a creature can choose ot fail its save if it wants, so I always rule the caster can. But I've had some people vehemently deny that my illusion caster could say...automatically get the full armor class bonus from a shadow conj. Greater Mage Armor. Be nice to have an "official" word of support on allowing auto belief. 2.) Any enemy spellcaster could presumably roll Spellcraft when you cast an illusion spell in its presence, or even upon experiencing the effects of an already cast illusion. With a fairly easy DC, spellcraft says the caster then knows what spell it is, and thus an illusion. I find that unacceptable in just how badly it cripples the usefulness of illusions (many mid to high CR monsters have spellcraft; too many also have True Seeing, but that's an entirely separate gripe). Has this ever been addressed? There's a fun skill trick to play with this in C.Scoundrel, but that's only once/encounter and has pre-reqs some casters are very unlikely to reach. Anything else? (If a PC makes the spellcraft DC but fails to disbelieve or does not interact with the illusion, my default response is to either pretend he failed the spellcraft roll and can't ID it or to bs some spell similar to what the illusion is mimicking if possible) [/QUOTE]
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