New News Page Layout

This is just an experiment - I'm not sold on it. The idea is that bigger news items dropped out of sight pretty quickly with the old format, while this one allows more to be seen at a glance. On the downside, it also makes it look a lot like every other news site on the web. The difference isn't as big as it appears at first - it's just that individual items are collapsed rather than expanded by default, in an attempt to make more room. Other than that, it's the same.
Anyhow, with the caveat that nobody likes change, let me know how you get on with it. It may stay, or it may go back to the old way. Switching it back is only a single click away!
 
Russ Morrissey

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rknop

Explorer
This layout is way better than the one that you had up before. The previous one was cluttered and busy. I would come to the site, and just see stuff everywhere and not be sure what was new, what was worth paying attention to. One coud get used to it, but it was still cluttered, busy, and overwhelming.

This layout is clean, clear, and you can see the news items pretty quickly. It's far better. I encourage you to stay with it or something like it.
 
The new layout is much neater and clearer, and appears very ordered. As you have already pointed out, though, it removes some "immediacy": before I could read all that I missed since my last visit and read it directly on the main page, while now I have to open the pages one by one; not much hassle for me, but given the choice I prefer the former layout :cool:
 
My thoughts:

+ One rail is preferred to two for easier reading and more space for news. It's less overwhelming.

- However, I'd like to see the article text remain. I want to read news on the news page, not click back and forth.

Why not mix the two -- keep the new one rail format with the old full article format!
 

Morrus

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Staff member
My thoughts:

+ One rail is preferred to two for easier reading and more space for news. It's less overwhelming.

- However, I'd like to see the article text remain. I want to read news on the news page, not click back and forth.

Why not mix the two -- keep the new one rail format with the old full article format!
By rail, do you mean columns? There was only ever one column of news!
 

The_Gneech

Visitor
I'm not sold on it either. The previous design had more of the classic "tabloid layout" feel, which I prefer. I find the new design hard to read, and hard to tell where the focus is.

-The Gneech :cool:
 

Evhelm

Explorer
I liked the three column, expanded article format.

Might just be because I'm using a live-feed to access the site (so I know when something's new and have easy navigation back to the old anyway).

I'm sure I'd get used to whatever you choose, but that extra click to expand the article does seem like it'd get tedious!
 

Nellisir

Adventurer
I wonder if I'm seeing what everyone else is, because I hate hate hate it. I'm not seeing "more at a glance"; I've got some kind of rolling banner up top that's showing the bottoms of pictures, most of which are meaningless, and then one or two massive "boxes" below it. I have to scroll and scroll and scroll, and each item is in it's own box and frankly a real hassle. The last time the front page looked something like this I switched my startup page to the forums and didn't read the news page for a year or two.
 

Morrus

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Staff member
I've just switched it to two columns of news to see what it would look like that way. I'm not keen myself (things don't line up quite right) but thought I'd float it out there.
 

Nellisir

Adventurer
OK, for some reason it suddenly made sense to me visually when I went back to it after my last comment. I still don't like it, but it wasn't as confusing at it was five minutes previous. This was one-column, btw.

The two-column format isn't really an improvement.
 

Morrus

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Staff member
I wonder if I'm seeing what everyone else is, because I hate hate hate it. I'm not seeing "more at a glance"; I've got some kind of rolling banner up top that's showing the bottoms of pictures, most of which are meaningless, and then one or two massive "boxes" below it. I have to scroll and scroll and scroll, and each item is in it's own box and frankly a real hassle. The last time the front page looked something like this I switched my startup page to the forums and didn't read the news page for a year or two.
Each article has been in its own box for months, apart from some summary articles I do which list things. The difference is simply that the articles are collapsed, not expanded, so you can see multiple articles rather than just the top one.
 

Nellisir

Adventurer
I'm still not sure how this is supposed to let you see "more at a glance" or stop things from dropping out of sight. I've only got two articles visible now; that's not more and they're going to drop away pretty damned quick.
 

Nellisir

Adventurer
Each article has been in its own box for months, apart from some summary articles I do which list things. The difference is simply that the articles are collapsed, not expanded, so you can see multiple articles rather than just the top one.
I guess I didn't notice the boxes before, just the articles. Now it's all boxes.

Edit: Can you put the posting date in the header? That'd be useful.
 

Morrus

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Staff member
I'm still not sure how this is supposed to let you see "more at a glance" or stop things from dropping out of sight. I've only got two articles visible now; that's not more and they're going to drop away pretty damned quick.
Maybe there's a screen size element. I can see 6 visible articles, and can scroll to see 6 more instantly.

Before I could see one visible article, and had to scroll all the way down to see the second, and then way down again to find the third, and so on.

Here's my terrible attempt to explain how there are more articles visible now. The red box is a computer monitor. The grey boxes are the articles. Before (left) you could see half an article. Now (right) you can see 6 or so. Sorry for the rubbishy graphic!

Screen size depending, of course! :)

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Nellisir

Adventurer
Maybe there's a screen size element. I can see 6 visible articles, and can scroll to see 6 more instantly.

Before I could see one visible article, and had to scroll all the way down to see the second, and then way down again to find the third, and so on.

Here's my terrible attempt to explain how there are more articles visible now. The red box is a computer monitor. The grey boxes are the articles. Before (left) you could see half an article. Now (right) you can see 6 or so. Sorry for the rubbishy graphic!

Screen size depending, of course! :)

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In the right image, replace Article 1 with the header, and Articles 2-3 with the rolling banner. That's what I'm getting. (except it's two columns so I'm seeing two half-size articles). I'm seeing the same stuff in less space.
 
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Morrus

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Staff member
In the right column, replace Article 1 with the header, and Articles 2-3 with the rolling banner. That's what I'm getting. (except it's two columns so I'm seeing two half-size articles). I'm seeing the same stuff in less space.
So you see two articles rather than the top of just one? Is it just the slideshow that's the issue?
 

Morrus

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