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<blockquote data-quote="The_Universe" data-source="post: 1780128" data-attributes="member: 8944"><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon"> For ease of interpretation, magic in KoA will operate under the same assumptions as Roe v. Wade. Until the beginning of the 3rd trimester, the child is considered a part of the mother, and as such is merely added weight. As soon as the child is theoretically viable outside the womb, it is considered a seperate entity for the purpose of *most* spells. I reserve the right to adjust that based on specific magics. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon"> This might work if you phrased it correctly. But, as you said, there are a lot of ways for this to be messed up. Since there aren't any PCs or easily accessible NPCs with access to wish besides the Bluestar, I don't think this will be an issue, anyway.... </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon"> Regenerate would return the mother to her most recent "healthy" state. As such, the child would be lost, re-absorbed into the mother. Since the baby has not been fully "generated" it cannot be "re-generated."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">Yes, but the ultimate health effects are as of yet unknown. Drastically altering the size of a developing fetus does not, as a general rule, seem like a real good idea, particularly for the child's long term health. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">After the beginning of the 3rd trimester, yes. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">Any shape change on the mother has a significant chance of aborting the fetus. The more extreme the change, the more likely the child will be lost. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">Until the beginning of the third trimester, the baby would be turned to stone, as well. After that point, it's likely that the shock of having a warm, fleshy womb suddenly turn to stone would kill it anyway. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">Until the baby is a "seperate person" (3rd trimester, again) it cannot be targeted individually by spells. For ease, I'd use the saves of a 1st level commoner. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">+4 circumstance bonus on heal checks to determine the status of the child in utero. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">There are no known contraceptive spells in KoA. Sorcerer's and Bard's do not manifest them, and the Light does not grant them to clerics or druids (which might give you a hint as to how the Light feels about such things). Wizards might be able to create such a spell, but because Wizardry has been outlawed for so long, and there is no similar sorcerer spell for them to imitate, there's nothing out there, yet. If you can think of a way to make a normal spell work toward the same purpose, I'm willing to entertain the idea. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">However, there are more mundane contraceptives. Freckles, in his attempt to invent the woopie cushion has also invented the condom.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">Additionally, while there are no herbal/alchemical contraceptives, there are concoctions that can be taken shortly after intercourse (within the first 6 weeks, say) that prevent the pregnancy from taking hold, or, if it is too late for that, terminate the pregnancy. After 6 weeks, such a concoction may work, but is just as likely to simply damage the child or fail completely. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: lemonchiffon">That's what I am thinking thus far. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The_Universe, post: 1780128, member: 8944"] [color=lemonchiffon] For ease of interpretation, magic in KoA will operate under the same assumptions as Roe v. Wade. Until the beginning of the 3rd trimester, the child is considered a part of the mother, and as such is merely added weight. As soon as the child is theoretically viable outside the womb, it is considered a seperate entity for the purpose of *most* spells. I reserve the right to adjust that based on specific magics. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon] This might work if you phrased it correctly. But, as you said, there are a lot of ways for this to be messed up. Since there aren't any PCs or easily accessible NPCs with access to wish besides the Bluestar, I don't think this will be an issue, anyway.... [/color] [color=lemonchiffon] Regenerate would return the mother to her most recent "healthy" state. As such, the child would be lost, re-absorbed into the mother. Since the baby has not been fully "generated" it cannot be "re-generated."[/color] [color=lemonchiffon]Yes, but the ultimate health effects are as of yet unknown. Drastically altering the size of a developing fetus does not, as a general rule, seem like a real good idea, particularly for the child's long term health. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]After the beginning of the 3rd trimester, yes. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]Any shape change on the mother has a significant chance of aborting the fetus. The more extreme the change, the more likely the child will be lost. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]Until the beginning of the third trimester, the baby would be turned to stone, as well. After that point, it's likely that the shock of having a warm, fleshy womb suddenly turn to stone would kill it anyway. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]Until the baby is a "seperate person" (3rd trimester, again) it cannot be targeted individually by spells. For ease, I'd use the saves of a 1st level commoner. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]+4 circumstance bonus on heal checks to determine the status of the child in utero. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]There are no known contraceptive spells in KoA. Sorcerer's and Bard's do not manifest them, and the Light does not grant them to clerics or druids (which might give you a hint as to how the Light feels about such things). Wizards might be able to create such a spell, but because Wizardry has been outlawed for so long, and there is no similar sorcerer spell for them to imitate, there's nothing out there, yet. If you can think of a way to make a normal spell work toward the same purpose, I'm willing to entertain the idea. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]However, there are more mundane contraceptives. Freckles, in his attempt to invent the woopie cushion has also invented the condom.[/color] [color=lemonchiffon]Additionally, while there are no herbal/alchemical contraceptives, there are concoctions that can be taken shortly after intercourse (within the first 6 weeks, say) that prevent the pregnancy from taking hold, or, if it is too late for that, terminate the pregnancy. After 6 weeks, such a concoction may work, but is just as likely to simply damage the child or fail completely. [/color] [color=lemonchiffon]That's what I am thinking thus far. :)[/color] [/QUOTE]
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