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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Tree" data-source="post: 94455" data-attributes="member: 1455">Some of them were not subtle.&nbsp; Some of them had to be.The Galadrial scene was far too over the top though, you're right.&nbsp; It would have been far more effective to have used something like the scene near the beginning where the shadows deepen around Gandalf as he gains a subtle aura of power, to intimidate Bilbo into leaving the ring.&nbsp; Most of the FX weren't explicitly noticable, because it altered the scene to make an effect.&nbsp; Lucas hasn't learned how to do that yet.&nbsp; Perhaps &quot;subtle&quot; isn't quite the right word for the FX in LotR.&nbsp; &quot;Artful&quot; is better.&nbsp; The FX in LotR was used artfully, not gratuitously.&nbsp; Lucas likes to throw in tons of FX that has no purpose other than to clutter the screen.&nbsp; FX for FX's sake.&nbsp; LotR used FX to further the plot and create atmosphere, and did so utterly beautifully.&nbsp; Compare the scene in Moria with the Balrog's fire shining through the pillars before it is seen, or the scene on Weathertop, to anything in TPM or for that matter, anything in the trailers for Ep.II.&nbsp; The former were beautiful and powerful, while the best that can be said about the latter is that they were techically impressive.&nbsp; There's a reason why the Matrix won the Oscar for Best Special Effects instead of TPM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Michael Tree, post: 94455, member: 1455"] Some of them were not subtle. Some of them had to be. The Galadrial scene was far too over the top though, you're right. It would have been far more effective to have used something like the scene near the beginning where the shadows deepen around Gandalf as he gains a subtle aura of power, to intimidate Bilbo into leaving the ring. Most of the FX weren't explicitly noticable, because it altered the scene to make an effect. Lucas hasn't learned how to do that yet. Perhaps "subtle" isn't quite the right word for the FX in LotR. "Artful" is better. The FX in LotR was used artfully, not gratuitously. Lucas likes to throw in tons of FX that has no purpose other than to clutter the screen. FX for FX's sake. LotR used FX to further the plot and create atmosphere, and did so utterly beautifully. Compare the scene in Moria with the Balrog's fire shining through the pillars before it is seen, or the scene on Weathertop, to anything in TPM or for that matter, anything in the trailers for Ep.II. The former were beautiful and powerful, while the best that can be said about the latter is that they were techically impressive. There's a reason why the Matrix won the Oscar for Best Special Effects instead of TPM. [/QUOTE]

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