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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Harry" data-source="post: 849825" data-attributes="member: 5468">Stupid vs. IgnorantI am an astronomer teaching in a physics department, and as such, I teach a lot of classes that either have material that is entirely new, or a level of mathematical rigor that is new to the student.  As such, I see a lot of perfectly excusable ignorance  (After all, if they weren't ignorant, why take the class?), and some desparate lying from students aught cheating that sounds like stupidity, but I have one story that takes the cake.  When working with a physics textbook, most will have 50-100 problems at the end of each chapter.  However, since half the answers are typically given in the back of the book, and since each teacher emphasizes slightly different material, when one examiones the end of the chapter to choose homework questions, there is a tendancy to choose problem sets that somewhat overlap.  (This may well have been an instance of foolishness on my part.)    At any rate, a homework assignment that I had given shared four out of ten problems with a homework assignment I had given the previous year.  A student had a friend who had taken the class before and she copied her friend's homework completely.   Absolutely completely.  Down to the half-finished problem diagrams that the previous student had to stop and redo.  How did I realize this, you may ask?  (Or perhaps you don't, but that hurts the story so I'll pretend you do.)  Sure, my suspions were partly aroused by the fact that the student did four problems on the homework -- and six problems *not* on the homework -- while leaving out six problems that *had* been assigned that year that weren't the year before, but the kicker was that the cheating individual turned in the assigned she had cheated from along with own!   As far as that goes, though, my mother worked for a long time as an emergency room nurse on the midnight shift, so she picked up a lot more stories in this line than I have.          Harry</blockquote>

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