Paladin Mount + Demiplane = ???

[AE020704]

Hello!

I'm planning to dump the party on an eebil little demiplane at some stage in the next couple of weeks, but a thought has just occurred to me:

On the Plane, it is impossible to cast Conj. (Calling) spells, meaning that when the Paladin tries to summon his mount, it won't come. However, I'm at a loss as to what will happen to the mount upon entering the Plane. Would it be completely unable to exist on the Plane? If I could guarantee they'd spend a night there (which they might) I'd be tempted to only let the Paladin find out his mount (the party tank!) cannot be called come morning, but what are your thoughts?

Thanks.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

It lasts 2 hours/paladin level, so if he's high enough level, he could at least bring it with him pre-summoned, if the party knows it will be going to this demiplane and that it blocks conj (calling) spells. Once there, it'd still disappear when the duration wears off, of course.

But no, I don't think he could summon it once there, unfortunately. Not without some means of overcoming that planar trait. Check spell compendium to see if any spells in there would help to do this.

 

[AE020704]

But no, I don't think he could summon it once there, unfortunately. Not without some means of overcoming that planar trait. Check spell compendium to see if any spells in there would help to do this.

Oh, no. I know he's not going to be able to resummon it. And none of them are planar travellers. AND they probably won't even know they're on a demiplane.

Ah, I'll let him find out in the morning, then.

Ta.

 

[Shin Okada]

I am not sure what will happen to a called monster by RAW. They are called and not summoned. Thus actually be there. So, if one's way home is blocked, it is possible that it simply cannot go back.

In case of most calling spells such as Planar Ally/Binding, that will not cause a big problem. Duration is "Instantaneous" and called monsters just follows the caller's request or command for certain length of time and then go back to their plane. But how they go back is undefined. They may use their own ability like Plane Shift or just walk away to find a portal leads to their home plane.

So once that length of time past, you can simply say that the called monster is still there, but just does not obey the caller anymore.

But paladin's Special Mount ability has duration. The mount is meant to automatically go back when the duration is end. Maybe the mount still automatically goes back to his home plane as the power to open "the way back to home" is stronger enough to penetrate the wall of demiplane.

Or, you can say that once the duration is past, the special mount loses all the bump ups gaining as a special mount and becomes an ordinary horse until the paladin uses his ability again.

Ultimately, it is up to the DM I guess. Because demiplane is something each DM tailors it's law.