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<blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 2544822" data-attributes="member: 9249"><p>I don't think the human mind is designed to perceive itself as evil. Very few people seem capable of operating smoothly while doing something that they consider to be wrong-- though a lot of people can justify wrongdoing simply by saying it's what they need to do to survive.</p><p></p><p>Most people, though, prefer to justify it entirely, by forming a justification for how their activities are simply not wrong in the first place. Noone is exempt from this, including myself-- the rational, level-headed arguments I use to defend some of my own positions and actions could just as easily be labelled "rationalizations" and "justifications" as the Robin Hood nonsense you get from street-corner muggers and Sovereign Citizens.</p><p></p><p>This doesn't mean I'm wrong; almost everyone needs to have moral justification for what they believe in, especially when it comes under fire. It also doesn't mean I believe in subjective (or relative) morality-- it just means that I understand that other people have different views on morality, and that they can disagree with some of those views without being bad people.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good man. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Good thing you learned to recognize it, too-- especially if you can recognize it before you're in trouble.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This could lead me to an entirely different discussion-- since I think everything boils down to the Law of the Jungle, in the end. Even the rule of law and the boundaries established by good decent people, because their laws must be <strong>enforced</strong> before they have any weight.</p><p></p><p>Sure, I believe in higher notions of right & wrong-- but until I've got the power to do what is right and to punish those who do what is wrong, my morality is an empty, pointless and valueless thing.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>edit: Forgot about the profanity filter. Sorry, Granny! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></em></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Viktyr Gehrig, post: 2544822, member: 9249"] I don't think the human mind is designed to perceive itself as evil. Very few people seem capable of operating smoothly while doing something that they consider to be wrong-- though a lot of people can justify wrongdoing simply by saying it's what they need to do to survive. Most people, though, prefer to justify it entirely, by forming a justification for how their activities are simply not wrong in the first place. Noone is exempt from this, including myself-- the rational, level-headed arguments I use to defend some of my own positions and actions could just as easily be labelled "rationalizations" and "justifications" as the Robin Hood nonsense you get from street-corner muggers and Sovereign Citizens. This doesn't mean I'm wrong; almost everyone needs to have moral justification for what they believe in, especially when it comes under fire. It also doesn't mean I believe in subjective (or relative) morality-- it just means that I understand that other people have different views on morality, and that they can disagree with some of those views without being bad people. Good man. :) Good thing you learned to recognize it, too-- especially if you can recognize it before you're in trouble. This could lead me to an entirely different discussion-- since I think everything boils down to the Law of the Jungle, in the end. Even the rule of law and the boundaries established by good decent people, because their laws must be [b]enforced[/b] before they have any weight. Sure, I believe in higher notions of right & wrong-- but until I've got the power to do what is right and to punish those who do what is wrong, my morality is an empty, pointless and valueless thing. [size=1][i]edit: Forgot about the profanity filter. Sorry, Granny! :)[/i][/size] [/QUOTE]
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