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[Gradine]

Apropos of nothing really

But I sometimes wonder if in 80-90 years we'll talk about JK Rowling the way people talk about HP Lovecraft now

"Oh, everyone was transphobic back then"
"No, but she was SUPER transphobic"

 

[trappedslider]

My first car was a '93 camry then a 2013 chevy sonic. I'm surprised some you didn't say a model T or The Wheel

 

[gnarlygninja]

Apropos of nothing really

But I sometimes wonder if in 80-90 years we'll talk about JK Rowling the way people talk about HP Lovecraft now

"Oh, everyone was transphobic back then"
"No, but she was SUPER transphobic"

I've noticed an uptick of 'umm actually, HP wasn't a racist' people lately, I wonder if she'll get a similar group.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Apropos of nothing really

But I sometimes wonder if in 80-90 years we'll talk about JK Rowling the way people talk about HP Lovecraft now

"Oh, everyone was transphobic back then"
"No, but she was SUPER transphobic"

JKR wishes.

I think outside of some Millennials, no one's really in her camp any more, other than the transphobes who are just happy they have a more impressive celebrity than certain other political movements are stuck with.

My kids never finished the books and my youngest has no desire to see the movies. She's going to Universal Studios Hollywood next month, and I suspect the Millennial mom will take them through the Hogwarts area, but so far, neither she nor her friend have said a peep about wanting to get wands and chug butterbeer. HP is emblematic of "Millennial cringe" with younger folks.

I suspect that, no matter what Warner Brothers might hope, we are long past peak Harry Potter and it's going to dwindle in popularity.

We'll see whoever holds the movie and TV rights trot it out in future, hoping people will care again (see: Netflix with the Narnia movies), and in 2046, ENWorld will have a front page column asking why there was never a Harry Potter RPG, but the rest of the world will move on.

Independent of all that, but obviously related, being transphobic at that point will be like being racist now. Obviously, there will be some of them around, but it'll be looked down on by almost everyone and while there will be eruptions of it periodically, it's something everyone else is going to run away from.

Gay rights in the US went from a marginal concern to suddenly a "duh, obviously" position pretty quickly in the 21st century, due in large part to Gen X and especially Millennials growing up knowing LGBT folks and knowing that older generations' demonization of them was based off wildly inaccurate caricatures.

I live in Southern California, which is clearly much more tolerant than other parts of the US, but there are openly trans kids in school right now and, per my school age kids, other than the people who are prejudiced against everyone (and likely acting out some deeper issues), no one cares.

When Gen Z and Gen Alpha hit voting age, I think we're going to see transphobia drop away as a viable political strategy and socially acceptable opinion to express pretty quickly.

 

[Ryujin]

JKR wishes.

I think outside of some Millennials, no one's really in her camp any more, other than the transphobes who are just happy they have a more impressive celebrity than certain other political movements are stuck with.

My kids never finished the books and my youngest has no desire to see the movies. She's going to Universal Studios Hollywood next month, and I suspect the Millennial mom will take them through the Hogwarts area, but so far, neither she nor her friend have said a peep about wanting to get wands and chug butterbeer. HP is emblematic of "Millennial cringe" with younger folks.

I suspect that, no matter what Warner Brothers might hope, we are long past peak Harry Potter and it's going to dwindle in popularity.

We'll see whoever holds the movie and TV rights trot it out in future, hoping people will care again (see: Netflix with the Narnia movies), and in 2046, ENWorld will have a front page column asking why there was never a Harry Potter RPG, but the rest of the world will move on.

Independent of all that, but obviously related, being transphobic at that point will be like being racist now. Obviously, there will be some of them around, but it'll be looked down on by almost everyone and while there will be eruptions of it periodically, it's something everyone else is going to run away from.

Gay rights in the US went from a marginal concern to suddenly a "duh, obviously" position pretty quickly in the 20th century, due in large part to Gen X and especially Millennials growing up knowing LGBT folks and knowing that older generations' demonization of them was based off wildly inaccurate caricatures.

I live in Southern California, which is clearly much more tolerant than other parts of the US, but there are openly trans kids in school right now and, per my school age kids, other than the people who are prejudiced against everyone (and likely acting out some deeper issues), no one cares.

When Gen Z and Gen Alpha hit voting age, I think we're going to see transphobia drop away as a viable political strategy and socially acceptable opinion to express pretty quickly.

I know a model who has several HP themed tattoos. And yes, she's a Millennial. Pity. She loves the story and the world, but hates Rowling with a firey passion now.

 

[Reynard]

Apropos of nothing really

But I sometimes wonder if in 80-90 years we'll talk about JK Rowling the way people talk about HP Lovecraft now

"Oh, everyone was transphobic back then"
"No, but she was SUPER transphobic"

I don't think HP has century legs.

 

[Gradine]

I don't think HP has century legs.

I would really like to think so. I don't believe it at the moment unfortunately

 

[Gradine]

I've noticed an uptick of 'umm actually, HP wasn't a racist' people lately, I wonder if she'll get a similar group.

We have grown increasingly detached from evidence as a society

 

[trappedslider]

Apropos of nothing really

But I sometimes wonder if in 80-90 years we'll talk about JK Rowling the way people talk about HP Lovecraft now

"Oh, everyone was transphobic back then"
"No, but she was SUPER transphobic"

Parents who loved it will pass it on their children, and those children who like it will pass it on. While it won't be as big as it was at launch there will always be fans for it just there's fans of lovecraft or other niche properties that folks wish had blossomed into multimedia empires.

Those are the fans who don't care what someone says or does,the same ones who keep corporations in the black despite all evidence showing the corporation as a soulless evil thing. Apathy is a powerful force when it comes to people's wallets.

 

[trappedslider]

And sadly those tend to outnumber/outspend the ones who do care.