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[VashVet]

I wish more people would just shut up and passionately kiss rather than drag out the foreplay by edition-warring for several pages.

 

[Willie the Duck]

I wish more people would just shut up and passionately kiss rather than drag out the foreplay by edition-warring for several pages.

But how do they do the Sam and Diane slap-slap-kiss if they can't agree on the to-hit of a slap (or whether the AC goes up or down)?

 

[CleverNickName]

Haiku for a Sea Lion

It's not an insult
if we disagree with you
nor is it judgment.

Nobody owes you
explanation or reason.
Do your own homework.

If I don't respond,
just assume you won...something.
I'm ignoring you.

 

[Scribe]

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Some eye opening discussion around here these last few days, but one of my main lessons? As I work on my own system?

The "D&D Tradition" of Spell Casting/Magic? Especially what its become but even at its root? Its not interesting. It doesnt feel like Magic SHOULD (and how does that even...) feel.

Its dull, painfully so in main line D&D.

Time to work on that.

 

[Gradine]

But how do they do the Sam and Diane slap-slap-kiss if they can't agree on the to-hit of a slap (or whether the AC goes up or down)?

Obviously 8th edition had the best slap-slap-kiss mechanics but nobody will admit it because 8th edition "didn't feel like Cheers". This is clearly the Alexandrian's fault.

 

[Mad_Jack]

First rule of holes- when you're in one, stop digging.

Second rule of holes- if you see someone digging in a hole, you don't have to jump in with your own shovel.

Third rule of holes- nothing stops you from throwing someone in a hole a shovel. It might make you a bad person, but you'll be a bad person with something to watch.

Fourth rule of holes - Always bring two shovels - you'll need one to hit them over the head with while they're busy digging their hole.

 

[Ryujin]

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Some eye opening discussion around here these last few days, but one of my main lessons? As I work on my own system?

The "D&D Tradition" of Spell Casting/Magic? Especially what its become but even at its root? Its not interesting. It doesnt feel like Magic SHOULD (and how does that even...) feel.

Its dull, painfully so in main line D&D.

Time to work on that.

Would it serve you better if Wizards were eliminated and Warlocks, and Sorcerers were their effective replacements?

Back in the 1e days we tried using "casting from book" and "spell slots" equal to total spell levels known, but neither worked very well. Part of the issue, I think, was the relative power of Wizards as levels increased.

 

[trappedslider]

Would it serve you better if Wizards were eliminated and Warlocks, and Sorcerers were their effective replacements?

For a second there, I was thinking you meant the company and I was like that would make half or more of the people on the forum happy.

 

[Scribe]

Would it serve you better if Wizards were eliminated and Warlocks, and Sorcerers were their effective replacements?

Back in the 1e days we tried using "casting from book" and "spell slots" equal to total spell levels known, but neither worked very well. Part of the issue, I think, was the relative power of Wizards as levels increased.

Somewhat, and I'm rebuilding the classes already, but its even more fundamental to me as of this morning.

Roll to Cast, Spell Points, Spell Slots, it doesnt really matter, if its DC 11 - 1d4 damage at X Range, or Level 1 Slot - 1d4 damage at X Range, that basis now that I really stare at it, just seems extremely dull, and no amount of scaling or bloat in either the dice rolled or the DC/Slot system is really going to change that fundamental nature of the "D&D Spell System".

If that makes sense.

 

[CleverNickName]

For a second there, I was thinking you meant the company and I was like that would make half or more of the people on the forum happy.

Well, half of the people in a certain thread at least. Not sure about the hundreds of thousands of other registered members.