Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Powerful Races and Beginning XP
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1028415" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>You're both (technically) incorrect.</p><p></p><p> A Drow Whatever(1) has an ECL of 3 ... and has 3,000XP to start with. Just like every OTHER ECL 3 character, like say, a Human WhicheverElse(3) has.</p><p></p><p> You start with the minimum XP needed to be a character of your net ECL. The table in the FRCS reflects this -- notice how ECL +0 races have "0 XP" listed for first level, ECL +1 races have "1,000 XP" listed for first level, and so on?</p><p></p><p> The <strong>best</strong> way, btw, to start a game where standard PHB races can achieve higher than 1st level, is to say (for example) "Everyone starts the game with 11,000XP and 9,000gp" (which comes, for PHB-race characters, to 5th level, an extra 1,000xp, and standard gp for that level). Or whatever values float YOUR boat, ofc.</p><p></p><p> If you start a level 3 game, and make the drow have 0XP to begin with ... you're putting that character 3,000XP <strong>behind</strong> the other party members. After everyone earns a 3,000XP increase, everyoen BUT the Drow will go up a level; the Drow, otoh, will only have earned what shoudl have been their <strong>starting</strong> experience points.</p><p></p><p>[EDIT]</p><p>I just realised, you two seem to be talking about allowing a +2 ECL race in a game with +0 ECL races, <strong>all of them at 1st level</strong>. In a word, <em>don't do it.</em> You'll throw off the Party Average Level, for one thing.</p><p></p><p>Every PC should start out with identical XP and GP. ECL cuts into that. If it's a 1st or 2d level start, then an ECL +2 race is simply <strong>not available</strong>.</p><p>[/EDIT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 1028415, member: 6875"] You're both (technically) incorrect. A Drow Whatever(1) has an ECL of 3 ... and has 3,000XP to start with. Just like every OTHER ECL 3 character, like say, a Human WhicheverElse(3) has. You start with the minimum XP needed to be a character of your net ECL. The table in the FRCS reflects this -- notice how ECL +0 races have "0 XP" listed for first level, ECL +1 races have "1,000 XP" listed for first level, and so on? The [b]best[/b] way, btw, to start a game where standard PHB races can achieve higher than 1st level, is to say (for example) "Everyone starts the game with 11,000XP and 9,000gp" (which comes, for PHB-race characters, to 5th level, an extra 1,000xp, and standard gp for that level). Or whatever values float YOUR boat, ofc. If you start a level 3 game, and make the drow have 0XP to begin with ... you're putting that character 3,000XP [b]behind[/b] the other party members. After everyone earns a 3,000XP increase, everyoen BUT the Drow will go up a level; the Drow, otoh, will only have earned what shoudl have been their [b]starting[/b] experience points. [EDIT] I just realised, you two seem to be talking about allowing a +2 ECL race in a game with +0 ECL races, [b]all of them at 1st level[/b]. In a word, [i]don't do it.[/i] You'll throw off the Party Average Level, for one thing. Every PC should start out with identical XP and GP. ECL cuts into that. If it's a 1st or 2d level start, then an ECL +2 race is simply [b]not available[/b]. [/EDIT] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Powerful Races and Beginning XP
Top