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<blockquote data-quote="Sir ThornCrest" data-source="post: 2077354" data-attributes="member: 27532"><p>In a recent campaign I allowed the players to play any race, thinking if they pick a powerfull race it will come with suitable level adjustment to fit the bonuses....1 Player showed up with the book Races of Stone..This player bought it because he loves to play Dwarves. In this book there is a race called stone child...he decided to mix it up and play the Stone Child. This player put an 18 on str and 18 on con the race gave him +8 to both so he now would have a 26 str and 26 con. We started out at 12th level and he was if I remember w/ -4 (or more?) so he would be 8th level Fighter due to level adjustment. He didnt mind he chose Fighter and wanted to give it a go. he's just over 7 foot tall and a good 400lbs or so (we call him grape ape, chewy, Ucla!)</p><p></p><p>he chose feats imp sunder, power attack, imp power attack, two handed power attack (name?but it is x2 str not x 1.5 w/ two handed weapon) wep focus, wep specialization and ? a feat that allows him to cleave after a successful sunder.</p><p>any ways he weilds a huge oversized two handed sword/claymore...</p><p></p><p>His sword is a +2 Keen, bane vs undead two handed sword, and he a pair of gauntlets of ogre str (+4 str), boots of striding and leaping +2 Full or Battle Plate a couple of potions of healing and thats it. </p><p></p><p>So here is the problem...and I do consider this a major problem!</p><p></p><p>1) He destroys weapons with one swing! I mean absolutely destroys them! +2,3 4 whatever-GONE! I FEEL THAT MAGICALS NEED MORE PROTECTION THAN RAW ALLOW. To take a enemies weapon, sheild, thats +3 or more & worth 50,000 or more that took a month for the mage to enchant and to let a meathead llike this to break it with one swing? I mean c'mon already! </p><p></p><p>2) And to make it worse he causes so much damage he downs opponents like bugs bunnies pitching 1 2 3 strikes your outta here. I mean this guy causes a good 75 pionts or so a round. I didnt exactly count while we were playing but I feel this is about right. The fully powered Merilith Demon with a Medusa template (basically a Madusa head) dc 18 or get stoned- was killed in 3 of his hits and he rolled with 2d8 a 4 twice!</p><p></p><p>He doesnt have the best ac in the world, but his to hit is good but his damage toooo UBBER!</p><p>The party is now 13th level so he is 9th fighter and is debating on his next feet, so its gonna get worse!</p><p></p><p>Secondly the party cleric and wizard are'nt dumb so they beef this guy up.</p><p></p><p>IS SUNDER BROKEN? IS TWO HANDED POWER ATTACK BROKEN? ARE SMART PLAYERS BROKEN?</p><p></p><p>its not his magicals thats causing the problem at all its his feats! Usually Im known to complain of toooo much magic but now its the feats, tooo much ubber feats.</p><p></p><p>do I diss-allow the stone child race? diss-allow the above combo of feats? Should I cheat and modify dungeons to better combat the party? (I have been) tELL THE PARTY THEY GOT TO DUMB IT DOWN A BIT? OR JUST BEEF THE HELL OUT OF DUNGEONS/ENCOUNTERS?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thorncrest</p><p>PS; do I walk alone on this? Or have you experienced the same with certian combos of feats smart players etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir ThornCrest, post: 2077354, member: 27532"] In a recent campaign I allowed the players to play any race, thinking if they pick a powerfull race it will come with suitable level adjustment to fit the bonuses....1 Player showed up with the book Races of Stone..This player bought it because he loves to play Dwarves. In this book there is a race called stone child...he decided to mix it up and play the Stone Child. This player put an 18 on str and 18 on con the race gave him +8 to both so he now would have a 26 str and 26 con. We started out at 12th level and he was if I remember w/ -4 (or more?) so he would be 8th level Fighter due to level adjustment. He didnt mind he chose Fighter and wanted to give it a go. he's just over 7 foot tall and a good 400lbs or so (we call him grape ape, chewy, Ucla!) he chose feats imp sunder, power attack, imp power attack, two handed power attack (name?but it is x2 str not x 1.5 w/ two handed weapon) wep focus, wep specialization and ? a feat that allows him to cleave after a successful sunder. any ways he weilds a huge oversized two handed sword/claymore... His sword is a +2 Keen, bane vs undead two handed sword, and he a pair of gauntlets of ogre str (+4 str), boots of striding and leaping +2 Full or Battle Plate a couple of potions of healing and thats it. So here is the problem...and I do consider this a major problem! 1) He destroys weapons with one swing! I mean absolutely destroys them! +2,3 4 whatever-GONE! I FEEL THAT MAGICALS NEED MORE PROTECTION THAN RAW ALLOW. To take a enemies weapon, sheild, thats +3 or more & worth 50,000 or more that took a month for the mage to enchant and to let a meathead llike this to break it with one swing? I mean c'mon already! 2) And to make it worse he causes so much damage he downs opponents like bugs bunnies pitching 1 2 3 strikes your outta here. I mean this guy causes a good 75 pionts or so a round. I didnt exactly count while we were playing but I feel this is about right. The fully powered Merilith Demon with a Medusa template (basically a Madusa head) dc 18 or get stoned- was killed in 3 of his hits and he rolled with 2d8 a 4 twice! He doesnt have the best ac in the world, but his to hit is good but his damage toooo UBBER! The party is now 13th level so he is 9th fighter and is debating on his next feet, so its gonna get worse! Secondly the party cleric and wizard are'nt dumb so they beef this guy up. IS SUNDER BROKEN? IS TWO HANDED POWER ATTACK BROKEN? ARE SMART PLAYERS BROKEN? its not his magicals thats causing the problem at all its his feats! Usually Im known to complain of toooo much magic but now its the feats, tooo much ubber feats. do I diss-allow the stone child race? diss-allow the above combo of feats? Should I cheat and modify dungeons to better combat the party? (I have been) tELL THE PARTY THEY GOT TO DUMB IT DOWN A BIT? OR JUST BEEF THE HELL OUT OF DUNGEONS/ENCOUNTERS? Thorncrest PS; do I walk alone on this? Or have you experienced the same with certian combos of feats smart players etc. [/QUOTE]
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