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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9694248" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>Yes, because I have shown many times that there can be consequences beyond just success/failure of the task. Other things may happen as a result. That disproves the absolute statement "only failure or success is at stake" without making an absolute statement of my own. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, this is much more what I'm saying. Though, I don't know if I'd say "follows the causal chain more closely" since what most people seem to want is to ignore the causal chain in order to look at the task in isolation. </p><p></p><p>But otherwise, yes, this is more what I have in mind. I'm not claiming that either method is more verisimilitudinous than the other... I am saying claims that "nothing happens" is more verisimilitudinous are wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9694248, member: 6785785"] Yes, because I have shown many times that there can be consequences beyond just success/failure of the task. Other things may happen as a result. That disproves the absolute statement "only failure or success is at stake" without making an absolute statement of my own. Yes, this is much more what I'm saying. Though, I don't know if I'd say "follows the causal chain more closely" since what most people seem to want is to ignore the causal chain in order to look at the task in isolation. But otherwise, yes, this is more what I have in mind. I'm not claiming that either method is more verisimilitudinous than the other... I am saying claims that "nothing happens" is more verisimilitudinous are wrong. [/QUOTE]
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