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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9694264" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>OK, you got me. 15,000+ posts of a slew of trad GMs oozing 'I own this part of the game' and you post a quote from John Harper that talks about what the GM is 'in charge of', and my using the term 'owns' is gaslighting?! Look, I'm going to accept that you didn't use the word, I don't think you're trying to BS anyone, but look at it this way. I have a life, it would take me 8 or 9 hours a day to read through the 100 pages of posts that get dropped on this thread every day. So, there may well be some subtlety of your position that I have missed, etc. If you want to replace 'owns' with 'in charge of' I don't think it changes the sense of what I'm saying AT ALL. </p><p></p><p>Again, if I missed something you posted, which is quite possible given that even my notifications are so large now as to be unwieldy, I apologize. Still, you don't have to assume instantly that everyone is a wanker.</p><p></p><p>This may be true in some sense. I don't perceive much of my play, as a player, as being outside of a 'character centric' mode. I was never a big speak only in character kind of player. in the 1000 Arrows game we wrapped up pretty recently my recollection is I spent a pretty good amount of time saying things like "I do this" or "I say XYZ." Now it is true that when you act in that game, you are going to have to make explicit what you intend. Often we would, as players, say something about a given situation, that it put pressure on a particular drive or something like that. </p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how that's different from trad play where all the games I've ever experienced included asking the GM many questions, and making statements about what skill checks we're using and whatnot. The tenor of the discussions seems similar, though the thrust of what was being discussed was somewhat different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 9694264, member: 82106"] OK, you got me. 15,000+ posts of a slew of trad GMs oozing 'I own this part of the game' and you post a quote from John Harper that talks about what the GM is 'in charge of', and my using the term 'owns' is gaslighting?! Look, I'm going to accept that you didn't use the word, I don't think you're trying to BS anyone, but look at it this way. I have a life, it would take me 8 or 9 hours a day to read through the 100 pages of posts that get dropped on this thread every day. So, there may well be some subtlety of your position that I have missed, etc. If you want to replace 'owns' with 'in charge of' I don't think it changes the sense of what I'm saying AT ALL. Again, if I missed something you posted, which is quite possible given that even my notifications are so large now as to be unwieldy, I apologize. Still, you don't have to assume instantly that everyone is a wanker. This may be true in some sense. I don't perceive much of my play, as a player, as being outside of a 'character centric' mode. I was never a big speak only in character kind of player. in the 1000 Arrows game we wrapped up pretty recently my recollection is I spent a pretty good amount of time saying things like "I do this" or "I say XYZ." Now it is true that when you act in that game, you are going to have to make explicit what you intend. Often we would, as players, say something about a given situation, that it put pressure on a particular drive or something like that. I'm not sure how that's different from trad play where all the games I've ever experienced included asking the GM many questions, and making statements about what skill checks we're using and whatnot. The tenor of the discussions seems similar, though the thrust of what was being discussed was somewhat different. [/QUOTE]
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