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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9697255" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Why do we need to go through all of that rigmarole?We already have a roll. It already tells us something went wrong.And, again, it's not like a single roll can't do two things. Failing a stealth check (VERY closely allied to a lock picking check!) absolutely does result in both the failure of the specific task AND, in many many cases, an immediate outbreak of hostilities or problems etc. So, again, why is it so gorram important that the die be thrown by the GM and not the player?And just so you know, I literally already did argue that the way the VAST VAST VAST majority of locks work, they ARE pickable by almost anyone who knows how locks work. Unless it's a highly specialized weirdo lock (and thus the character never had a chance to pick it to begin with, which we've been explicitly and repeatedly told is not true) such that you need a very specific tool to open it, nearly every lock is eventually pickable by anyone who has learned how to pick locks. But they might be really slow or blazing fast. Thus, again, it is significantly more verisimilitudinous—as in it literally does have more similarity to what is true, it literally is more like what we can observe in reality—to say that a lock is only "unpickable" because attempting to take the time needed to pick it is too lengthy a process...which would be best demonstrated by having a danger appear that needs to be addressed.</blockquote>

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