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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9701594" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Is this based on your reading of the text, or on the opinions of others (eg [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER]) who haven't read the text.</p><p></p><p>Like, what is confusing about a direction to the GM to <em>Make the players' characters' lives not boring</em>, but in doing so, to <em>Be a fan of the players' characters'</em>. Even without more, I think it's fairly clear that this rules some stuff in but rules other stuff out: eg one way to make a character's life not boring is to create a fiction in which they are persecuted by the gods and all their hopes dashed, but that probably isn't consistent with being a fan of the character (unless the character is a <em>very</em> particular sort of character).</p><p></p><p>I don't get this. The techinque is straightforward. [USER=205]@TwoSix[/USER] gave an illustration of its use. The fact that you don't want to use it doesn't make it complicated!</p><p></p><p>Well, if someone is resolute in their determination to pay no attention to any ideas or developments in RPGing except those found in D&D rulebooks (excluding 4e D&D), that of course is their prerogative. It would seem to be reasonably described as a "conservative" outlook. They might want to argue that their conservatism is not <em>exhausting</em>, but I'm not sure how they could argue that they're not conservative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9701594, member: 42582"] Is this based on your reading of the text, or on the opinions of others (eg [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER]) who haven't read the text. Like, what is confusing about a direction to the GM to [I]Make the players' characters' lives not boring[/I], but in doing so, to [I]Be a fan of the players' characters'[/I]. Even without more, I think it's fairly clear that this rules some stuff in but rules other stuff out: eg one way to make a character's life not boring is to create a fiction in which they are persecuted by the gods and all their hopes dashed, but that probably isn't consistent with being a fan of the character (unless the character is a [I]very[/I] particular sort of character). I don't get this. The techinque is straightforward. [USER=205]@TwoSix[/USER] gave an illustration of its use. The fact that you don't want to use it doesn't make it complicated! Well, if someone is resolute in their determination to pay no attention to any ideas or developments in RPGing except those found in D&D rulebooks (excluding 4e D&D), that of course is their prerogative. It would seem to be reasonably described as a "conservative" outlook. They might want to argue that their conservatism is not [I]exhausting[/I], but I'm not sure how they could argue that they're not conservative. [/QUOTE]
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