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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="thefutilist" data-source="post: 9702749" data-attributes="member: 7044566"><p>There are lots of configurations of moral crisis. I'm not a huge fan of Vincent's definition for that reason but it serves it's purpose.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here's an example of rising action through escalation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Jill has a sick brother and no money to pay her medical bills. So she decides to rob a bank She crosses a moral line by choosing one value (priority) over another. Sue is Jill's friend and she joins Jill, choosing one priority over another and crossing a moral line.</p><p></p><p>So they're in the bank, holding everyone up with guns and Jill tries to lock pick the vault and fails. This triggers the alarm and so the police are going to be on their way. Rising action. Jill then threatens to cut off the bank managers finger if he doesn't open the vault (escalation and another moral line). She fails her 'go aggro' intimidate check. She cuts off his finger. Now she threatens to kill him (escalation and another moral line).</p><p></p><p>Sue isn't ok with this and pleads with Jill to let it go and fails to persuade her. Requires escalation if she's going to do anything which she must because...Jill fails her 'go aggro' check. The bank manager isn't talking and Jill is raising her gun and Sue has a choice. So she shoots Jill. She crosses a moral line, really choosing one value over another.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You're correct that all that exists is the potential for rising action. Another reason I'm iffy on Vincent's definition. There is a conflict that means there are no good choices but it's entirely possible for the characters to just choose something and live with the consequences.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thefutilist, post: 9702749, member: 7044566"] There are lots of configurations of moral crisis. I'm not a huge fan of Vincent's definition for that reason but it serves it's purpose. Here's an example of rising action through escalation. Jill has a sick brother and no money to pay her medical bills. So she decides to rob a bank She crosses a moral line by choosing one value (priority) over another. Sue is Jill's friend and she joins Jill, choosing one priority over another and crossing a moral line. So they're in the bank, holding everyone up with guns and Jill tries to lock pick the vault and fails. This triggers the alarm and so the police are going to be on their way. Rising action. Jill then threatens to cut off the bank managers finger if he doesn't open the vault (escalation and another moral line). She fails her 'go aggro' intimidate check. She cuts off his finger. Now she threatens to kill him (escalation and another moral line). Sue isn't ok with this and pleads with Jill to let it go and fails to persuade her. Requires escalation if she's going to do anything which she must because...Jill fails her 'go aggro' check. The bank manager isn't talking and Jill is raising her gun and Sue has a choice. So she shoots Jill. She crosses a moral line, really choosing one value over another. Anyway. You're correct that all that exists is the potential for rising action. Another reason I'm iffy on Vincent's definition. There is a conflict that means there are no good choices but it's entirely possible for the characters to just choose something and live with the consequences. [/QUOTE]
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