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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Enrahim" data-source="post: 9703705" data-attributes="member: 7025577">I have a couple of relatively recent examples for you.A wandering monster goblin shot an arrow at the party and missed. Players reacted by withdrawing into a nearby room. Initiative was not rolled.A player tried to cut a rope bridge and failed. I called for initiative with no hostile intentions declared, as timing of actions were essential. The situation defused in one round and some skill checks.Neither of these would be "allowable" if the combat sequence were triggered if and only if a hostile action is attempted in fiction.If you want to make a point of players initiated, I have also had longer time ago PvP instances where a character has acted out (for instance) unarmed attack, that has not triggered combat sequence.I cannot offer the top of my head remember any cases the PCs initiated attack against monsters in a situation where the combat sequence was not the obvious tool for the job. I do not remember how I handled the evil party more or less executing some farmers more than 20 years ago. I likely would not have cared about initiative for that today (but do not see myself running that kind of game either).</blockquote>