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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Enrahim" data-source="post: 9704022" data-attributes="member: 7025577">You are now trying to impose a single definition of "sim" onto a conversation that has shown that there are a lot of understandings of "sim play", most of them hardly having anything to do with the everyday word "simulation". I do believe [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] intended one of these technical terms, and I struggle to see the reading that clearly suggest otherwise.EDIT: Looked further up, and it seem like it might indeed be [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] that rejects good faith engaging with "simulation" on your sense. Let us just say this seem more like a confusion about language, than any profound difference in understanding of games.EDIT2: Looking even further up I see this reply thread started with you making claims about the "proper" use of the word simulation. In that post you used the word "simulation" consequently unto a point you switched to talking about "simulationist". This was the switch that made the thing disconnected. "Simulationist" is not the same as "simulating". If you had replaced all occurrences of "simulationist" with "simulating" in your first post, I think it would be non-controversial. Recognising the distinction between rules that do simulate something (simulating rules) from rules that supports play that revolves around some kind of simulation-like activity (simulationist rules) are critical in context of this thread.</blockquote>