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[rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9704606" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>But it doesn't simulate the process of falling. It only tells you the result that you fell down. That's it. It could be gravity or it could be anything else. Heck, I could have teleported really hard to the bottom. The point is, we don't know. And, please, don't just focus on the one example to the exclusion of all else. What does it mean when I roll high on a performance check? What does it mean when I roll average on an Animal Handling check? After all, according to you, these are both simulating something. So, you should be able to use the mechanics to come up with a definitive answer. One that excludes other answers. That's what a simulation does. It tells you HOW something happened. </p><p></p><p>These rolls are not simulating anything. They are simply giving you results. Results without any process. That's not what a simulation is.</p><p></p><p>This is why it's so baffling to see people champion D&D as a simulationist game. It's so bizarre. It's like watching people INSIST that a Ferrari is a fantastic off road car. I agree that it's a great car. I agree that it's totally fun to drive. But, it is, in no way an off road car (and please don't point to the various off road Ferrari's out there. Please don't be that pedantic.) I get that you want simulation. I love that idea. I love sim games. I think they're great. I have played lots of them and I absolutely adore them. </p><p></p><p>But none of them have ever been D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9704606, member: 22779"] But it doesn't simulate the process of falling. It only tells you the result that you fell down. That's it. It could be gravity or it could be anything else. Heck, I could have teleported really hard to the bottom. The point is, we don't know. And, please, don't just focus on the one example to the exclusion of all else. What does it mean when I roll high on a performance check? What does it mean when I roll average on an Animal Handling check? After all, according to you, these are both simulating something. So, you should be able to use the mechanics to come up with a definitive answer. One that excludes other answers. That's what a simulation does. It tells you HOW something happened. These rolls are not simulating anything. They are simply giving you results. Results without any process. That's not what a simulation is. This is why it's so baffling to see people champion D&D as a simulationist game. It's so bizarre. It's like watching people INSIST that a Ferrari is a fantastic off road car. I agree that it's a great car. I agree that it's totally fun to drive. But, it is, in no way an off road car (and please don't point to the various off road Ferrari's out there. Please don't be that pedantic.) I get that you want simulation. I love that idea. I love sim games. I think they're great. I have played lots of them and I absolutely adore them. But none of them have ever been D&D. [/QUOTE]
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