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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Riposte" data-source="post: 4376101" data-attributes="member: 69028">I can't mechanically give you a hand, but...Bard of 3e DnD basically was equivalent to a Red Mage. While the Bard was still a Bard, every thing else about it fit the Red Mage perfectly. I imagine 4e being no different. It's likely to be a Arcane Leader, which works with the Red Mage fine. You can try editing the more Bard-like features(or just call them spells).Blue Mage is an interesting concept in 4e. Once I saw the power and monster system I knew it had potential for such a class. I don't see it being as simple as creating an overlaying power template. I think for balance's sake you'll need to convert individual monster powers into "spells". Probably one per popular monster/monster family, or maybe a little more limited.As for power source and "lore". I believe your best bet would be to borrow from what I would say is the most fleshed out and interesting version of the Blue Mage: Final Fantasy XI's(Yes, the MMO one). I'll post a summery and a link.The Near East Empire is really into Alchemy and messing with stuff they shouldn't mess with in search of military power. Creating new monsters/chimeras and doing science thats so maddening it opens the gates to hell, and all that jazz. When the monsters they create turn on them, they create Blue Magic in order to combat it. At first it's trial and error(end up creating Soulflayers - Mindflayers with Wizards of the Coast licensing problems), but finally they begin binding the souls of monsters with the one's own soul.People give up their humanity for this great power. And they die a lot. The strain of mimicking a monster with a human's body and soul causes a lot of injury. And if the primal power of the beasts overtake them, they turn into monsters(like Soulflayers) themselves. The Immortal Lions are the Imperial Guard and pretty make up most of the Blue Mages. They die... a lot. Though, an important character within that group can't die at all because he absorbed too much undead. He's a jerk.<a href="http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/424/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/424/detail.html</a>Anyway, if you based it on this, the power source would be a bit tricky. I want to say Primal, but Arcane works too. It really depends on how you look at it. I would say this incarnation of Blue Mage is more shamanic than magical, so that's something to consider.I hope this helps.</blockquote>

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