Save or DIE spells level by level.

Cyan

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Hi!
I'm looking to compile a spell list of save of die spells level by level. By die I also mean incapacitating spells that leave you to the mercy of you enemies (do you think charm qualifies?).
Optimally there should be spells at each level that targets different saves(Fort, Ref, Will). Different lists for the different casters (divine , wizard).

Lets have a go at it people and see how well we can do!
 

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Here's a start from a list I had previously built:
4th:
Phantasmal Killer

5th:
Cloudkill (6HD or less), Slay Living

6th:
Disintegrate, Circle of Death(9 HD or less), Harm

7th:
Prismatic Spray (Poison), Destruction, Dictum/Holy Word/Word of Chaos (4 HD or less)

8th:
Earthquake, Symbol of Death (150 hp)

9th:
Power Word, Kill (100 hp - targeted, 20 hp - area), Weird, Wail of the Banshee, Implosion
 
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Are you including all published spells in your search? If so we have spells like Heart Stop from BoVD, for instance. I don't have my books with me, but I could run through them when I'm back home.

I wouldn't really put charm spells on the list but Hold and Dominate I might...
 


That probably belong to the Rules forum.

Slay living is a true save or die spell, contrarily to hold, harm or sleep. My halfling rogue had the joy of rolling a natural 1 on a slay living trap last sunday. Now he's been reincarnated as a human, and is majorly *expletive* off by this cumbersome and clunky new body... :(
 

Yeah, I agree, Gez. But in the first post he says hes looking for spells that leave you helpless also.

One I like from BoVD - 1st level - Sorrow - subject creature is helpless for 1 rd. Will save I believe - I've been using this on the melee fighters a lot when running evil priests...
 

Let's see now... if we just stick to PHB...

Save or Die:
Phantasmal Killer 4th
Slay Living Clr 5th
Circle of Death 6th
Disintegrate 6th
Destruction Clr 7th
Finger of Death 7th
Prismatic Spray/Wall/Sphere 7th/7th/9th
Symbol 8th
Implosion Clr 9th
Weird 9th
Wail of the Banshee 9th

Save or (uh-oh):
Color Spray 1st
Sleep 1st
Hold Person/Monster 3rd/5th
Halt Undead 3rd (for undead, but has an interesting clause for release...)
Otiluke's Resilent/Telekinetic Sphere 4th/8th (essentially removes one from combat)
Dominate Person/Monster 5th/9th
Polymorph Other 4th
Flesh to Stone 6th
Plane Shift 7th (questionable, IMO)

What!?!? No Save?:
Forcecage 7th
Power Word, Stun 7th (can't act for several rounds)
Maze 8th
Otto's Irresistable Dance 8th
Imprisonment 9th
Power Word, Kill 9th
Temporal Stasis 9th
Cleric death domain ability
 
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On a slightly different tack, theres the Clerical Death Domain ability. Despite being used by spellcasters it's not exactly a spell. Still, it can kill at low level with no save and its in the "Core Rules".
 

What about the clerical Command spells? If you shout "Freeze!", isn't that effectively the same as a Hold person? easier to save against, and with a short duration, but still, helpless is helpless.

-Tacky
 

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