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<blockquote data-quote="Goonalan" data-source="post: 5709496" data-attributes="member: 16069"><p>While I agree with all of the above I also think the following is true, from my POV.</p><p></p><p>Clues are going to be 'coy', if clues were more overt then... they wouldn't be clues- they be statements unhindered by mystery et al. If I wanted you to make a Religion check I'd ask for one. If I wanted to be clever I'd use the word divine- knowing it has a few interpretations and that those that saw through my ruse would use the correct skills (or else, I thought, try the usual 'knowledge' style skills). I don't sit here thinking they'll never get this, I sit here thinking I'm not that bright and there are five of them... Someone's bound to see through my silly trick. Also remember that many times the words I use are drawn forth with the help of my subconscious- this isn't (for the most part) crafted, this is just stuff what I wrote.</p><p></p><p>I agree with the negatives for failure of skill checks (as you state above), however I hope that by now, x months down the track, you have seen through my tough shell to the inner me- soft, gooey and kind-hearted. I hope then with that in mind you will not fear to try things in future (skill checks etc.). I try to make it clear (or only lightly obscurred) at what points failure is not an option, or else has dire consequences. If I'm failing to do so then please say.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, and back to the coy, I never tell my RL players what skill check to make- that's not to say I shouldn't here (for a myriad reasons). If other DMs do this then please say- and I will consider doing so in future.</p><p></p><p>As to the original ref to the alcove, there is nothing to hint at the religious aspect in the actual scenario- save for the fact that you are in a complex of crypts etc. (that wasn't a jibe). I added the glowing shimmering aspect to the water because... I wanted you to continue your search (another clue). Perhaps the light was the water reacting to the presence of you lot- the good guys. You'll note I also started the encounter with Thurann trying to get in to the alcove, and then hiding there- this was not so much a clue as me saying... but look where the boy is, that's something new, or strange, or...</p><p></p><p>A pool of water is visible, the light shimmering off it at the far side of the chamber. But that's not it...</p><p></p><p>Is all the way back to the original description when Kali arrives in the chamber. I try my best, sometimes that's not good enough- I will try harder I promise.</p><p></p><p>Apologies to anyone if I'm getting their backs up with my chatter, and why don't you... etc. I'm on the learning curve, and happy to have such excellent tutors.</p><p></p><p>Cheers PDR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goonalan, post: 5709496, member: 16069"] While I agree with all of the above I also think the following is true, from my POV. Clues are going to be 'coy', if clues were more overt then... they wouldn't be clues- they be statements unhindered by mystery et al. If I wanted you to make a Religion check I'd ask for one. If I wanted to be clever I'd use the word divine- knowing it has a few interpretations and that those that saw through my ruse would use the correct skills (or else, I thought, try the usual 'knowledge' style skills). I don't sit here thinking they'll never get this, I sit here thinking I'm not that bright and there are five of them... Someone's bound to see through my silly trick. Also remember that many times the words I use are drawn forth with the help of my subconscious- this isn't (for the most part) crafted, this is just stuff what I wrote. I agree with the negatives for failure of skill checks (as you state above), however I hope that by now, x months down the track, you have seen through my tough shell to the inner me- soft, gooey and kind-hearted. I hope then with that in mind you will not fear to try things in future (skill checks etc.). I try to make it clear (or only lightly obscurred) at what points failure is not an option, or else has dire consequences. If I'm failing to do so then please say. Lastly, and back to the coy, I never tell my RL players what skill check to make- that's not to say I shouldn't here (for a myriad reasons). If other DMs do this then please say- and I will consider doing so in future. As to the original ref to the alcove, there is nothing to hint at the religious aspect in the actual scenario- save for the fact that you are in a complex of crypts etc. (that wasn't a jibe). I added the glowing shimmering aspect to the water because... I wanted you to continue your search (another clue). Perhaps the light was the water reacting to the presence of you lot- the good guys. You'll note I also started the encounter with Thurann trying to get in to the alcove, and then hiding there- this was not so much a clue as me saying... but look where the boy is, that's something new, or strange, or... A pool of water is visible, the light shimmering off it at the far side of the chamber. But that's not it... Is all the way back to the original description when Kali arrives in the chamber. I try my best, sometimes that's not good enough- I will try harder I promise. Apologies to anyone if I'm getting their backs up with my chatter, and why don't you... etc. I'm on the learning curve, and happy to have such excellent tutors. Cheers PDR [/QUOTE]
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