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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1521305" data-attributes="member: 1465">The problem with these shadow spells is that the designers seem to have addressed only the offensive use of them.These are the few lines about non-damaging or non-offensive effects:This is still IMHO referring to damaging or attacking. It has nothing to do with the Strength value for example, including carrying capacity. Otherwise it should have said explicitly. Also, you cannot expect that a shadow creature strength is 20%, because Str 4 is NOT 20% of Str 20.It's always talking about &quot;effects&quot;, but I think that the writers couldn't see past the combat scenario. If I conjure a shadow mount, does it mean that the ones who believe it's real can ride it, and the ones who don't they have 80% of chance of falling with their butt on the ground?That's fine. The mount or unseen servant will be more vulnerable if attacked in any case.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1521305, member: 1465"] The problem with these shadow spells is that the designers seem to have addressed only the offensive use of them. These are the few lines about non-damaging or non-offensive effects: This is still IMHO referring to damaging or attacking. It has nothing to do with the Strength value for example, including carrying capacity. Otherwise it should have said explicitly. Also, you cannot expect that a shadow creature strength is 20%, because Str 4 is NOT 20% of Str 20. It's always talking about "effects", but I think that the writers couldn't see past the combat scenario. If I conjure a shadow mount, does it mean that the ones who believe it's real can ride it, and the ones who don't they have 80% of chance of falling with their butt on the ground? That's fine. The mount or unseen servant will be more vulnerable if attacked in any case. [/QUOTE]

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