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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3156343" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Interesting question, but I think it's covered by the 'Multiple Magical Effects' section of the Magic Overview in the PHB, under 'One Effect Makes Another Irrelevant'.</p><p></p><p>The example is someone shapechanged into a goldfish, who then is polymorphed into an eagle. The shapechange spell is still in effect, but they end up as a human shapechanged into a goldfish polymorphed into an eagle - their form is that of an eagle.</p><p></p><p>So you'd be a human whose Type became Dragon whose Type became, say, Construct; your class feature is still in effect, but the shapechange spell renders it temporarily irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>Regarding your other questions, it's all made murky by the introduction of the Polymorph subschool in PHBII.</p><p></p><p>But as far as I can tell, when you change Type (which I believe still happens with Shapechange even under the Polymorph subschool), you generally retain the features of your original Type, but gain the traits of the new Type. No Con score and immunity to mind-affecting effects are traits of the COnstruct type, so they'll apply.</p><p></p><p>Your hit points stay the same unless they specifically change in the spell description... which they don't. So the loss of Con has no effect on your hit points.</p><p></p><p>A Con-boosting spell will take effect (as long as it can target a Construct), but won't <em>do</em> anything. If you change to a form with a Con score, however, the spell (already operating on you) will behave normally.</p><p></p><p>Regarding Animal Growth and Magic Fang: the spell only cares about satisfying the target parameters at casting time. The example in the FAQ is, from memory, a humanoid targeted with Hold Person, who subsequently turns into an Ogre (a giant); he is still held, because the spell came into effect on a valid target.</p><p></p><p>So if you Shapechange into a wolf and have Animal Growth cast on you, you'll increase in size. If you then turn into a bear, you'll be a bear increased in size. If you then turn into a halfling, you'll be a halfling increased in size, because the Animal Growth spell is still in effect on you. (Note that there's debate as to whether Animal Growth and Shapechange count as 'multiple magical effects that increase size', if you turn into, say, a dire tiger. Are you a normal-sized dire tiger (whose size can be increased by Animal Growth), or are you a dire tiger two sizes larger than your normal human form (whose size increase won't stack with Animal Growth)?)</p><p></p><p>Magic Fang followed by a change in Type is the same - if the spell's already in effect, it won't stop working.</p><p></p><p>Note that a druid's Wildshape (unlike Shapechange) no longer changes Type. An elf Wildshaped into a wolf is still a Humanoid (Elf).</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3156343, member: 1656"] Interesting question, but I think it's covered by the 'Multiple Magical Effects' section of the Magic Overview in the PHB, under 'One Effect Makes Another Irrelevant'. The example is someone shapechanged into a goldfish, who then is polymorphed into an eagle. The shapechange spell is still in effect, but they end up as a human shapechanged into a goldfish polymorphed into an eagle - their form is that of an eagle. So you'd be a human whose Type became Dragon whose Type became, say, Construct; your class feature is still in effect, but the shapechange spell renders it temporarily irrelevant. Regarding your other questions, it's all made murky by the introduction of the Polymorph subschool in PHBII. But as far as I can tell, when you change Type (which I believe still happens with Shapechange even under the Polymorph subschool), you generally retain the features of your original Type, but gain the traits of the new Type. No Con score and immunity to mind-affecting effects are traits of the COnstruct type, so they'll apply. Your hit points stay the same unless they specifically change in the spell description... which they don't. So the loss of Con has no effect on your hit points. A Con-boosting spell will take effect (as long as it can target a Construct), but won't [i]do[/i] anything. If you change to a form with a Con score, however, the spell (already operating on you) will behave normally. Regarding Animal Growth and Magic Fang: the spell only cares about satisfying the target parameters at casting time. The example in the FAQ is, from memory, a humanoid targeted with Hold Person, who subsequently turns into an Ogre (a giant); he is still held, because the spell came into effect on a valid target. So if you Shapechange into a wolf and have Animal Growth cast on you, you'll increase in size. If you then turn into a bear, you'll be a bear increased in size. If you then turn into a halfling, you'll be a halfling increased in size, because the Animal Growth spell is still in effect on you. (Note that there's debate as to whether Animal Growth and Shapechange count as 'multiple magical effects that increase size', if you turn into, say, a dire tiger. Are you a normal-sized dire tiger (whose size can be increased by Animal Growth), or are you a dire tiger two sizes larger than your normal human form (whose size increase won't stack with Animal Growth)?) Magic Fang followed by a change in Type is the same - if the spell's already in effect, it won't stop working. Note that a druid's Wildshape (unlike Shapechange) no longer changes Type. An elf Wildshaped into a wolf is still a Humanoid (Elf). -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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