Spring attack dance

[VickiM]

I have a player who recently created a rogue. She has taken the spring attack feat, and uses it to dance around the enemy without AoO. I've only seen it used before to spring into and out of an enemy's reach, not to do the cha-cha. Does anyone know if this use is allowed? It seems to me to go against the purpose of the feat.

She is multi-classed as a scout, and gets bonus damage when she skirmishes, moving at least 10 feet before attacking. Her using spring attack in this way will be an every-battle occurrence, so it will come up a lot.

Thanks for any advice!

 

[green slime]

I have a player who recently created a rogue. She has taken the spring attack feat, and uses it to dance around the enemy without AoO. I've only seen it used before to spring into and out of an enemy's reach, not to do the cha-cha. Does anyone know if this use is allowed? It seems to me to go against the purpose of the feat.

She is multi-classed as a scout, and gets bonus damage when she skirmishes, moving at least 10 feet before attacking. Her using spring attack in this way will be an every-battle occurrence, so it will come up a lot.

Thanks for any advice!

No its fine.

You just need to remember that it only works against those the scout actually attacks, not the allies of the attacked.

But of course, then there is tumble...

 

[frankthedm]

Don't forget to check the errata on skirmish!

 

[Infiniti2000]

Is the rogue attacking or not? Doing the cha-cha...not sure about it.

In any case, you'll find that it won't be broken so don't worry about it too much. Just have fun with it. A knowledgeable enemy, however, could simply ready a trip or grapple (though that obviously consumes a significant action and therefore might not be a bad thing for the rogue).

 

[irdeggman]

It depends on what type of action you define "dancing" as.


If it merely an exagerated movement type (some arm gestures, etc.) then it is mostly a "color" description and should have no bearing on the game mechanics.

If she is trying to actually "dance" as in more detailed and extensive dancing - that is actually more of a skill use (it falls under the definiation of perform).

Spring attack doesn't apply to anything other than movement.

So it all depends on how much detail is being done or whether or not is merely a "color" description of the action - like "prancing".

 

[Runestar]

By dancing, do you mean the rogue is moving in some sort of zig-zag fashion? Nothing in the spring attack entry appears to prohibit this. Basically, what you can move with normal movement, you can move with spring attack.

 

[Aluvial]

Don't forget to check the errata on skirmish!

Hmm, what exactly is that? I'm curious, having a scout in my game.

I believe what is occuring is that the PC enters from one side, attacks, and then moves around the character to get to the opponent's other side. This is fine. Just remember to charge the scout and pound him/her.

Aluvial

 

[Runestar]

You can't use skirmish while mounted, IIRC.

 

[Hypersmurf]

You can't use skirmish while mounted, IIRC.

Well, yeah, that's part of it

The more significant part is changing "The scout must move ten feet" to "The scout must move ten feet from where she was at the start of her turn".

Pre-errata, you could move five feet back, five feet forward, skirmish. Five feet back, five feet forward, skirmish. But since this never gets you ten feet from where you were at the start of your turn, it doesn't work post-errata.

Opinion is divided as to whether ten feet back, ten feet forward, skirmish works, post-errata.

-Hyp.