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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 4991763" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I have been on the WotC website since the early 3e days...</p><p></p><p>year one there was talk about broken monk and ubber fighter...both seamed so over the top in theory...then around 8-15 months in stories started of the 'win buttons' that were level 5+ spells.</p><p></p><p>I still remember at the same gencon that I got my 3.5 books at I talked to people who called druids a double character...you get your broken caster and your bad ass fighter as a pet...</p><p></p><p>C.o.D. zilla came out as a popular phrase around that time...</p><p></p><p>it orginaly ment Cleric or Druid zilla where the cleric could self buff to being a better fighter then a fighter and still have his spells, well the druid could do so easier...</p><p></p><p>latter when night sticks, and persistant spell came out and clerics could use them to have Divine X (the spell that was +1/3 caster level attack and damage as a luck bonus) Divine power (fighter base attack and +4 str) and Wrightus Might (up one size catagory) up all day for 1 casting each... yea so you have the ability to wear any armor, a fighter base attack, upto +6 attack and damge, and count as large...pluse still have your spells... </p><p></p><p>people then cryed "that is power creep not the class fault" and C.O.dzilla got a new meaning</p><p></p><p>COre Only...and that mostly ment the Druid. At X level (I want to say 7th) You could wild shape into a bear (lots of combat potantial) well calling down lightning and entangling (pretty good casting), and summoning more bears (more good combatabts) with your wolf body guard (equal to most equal level fighters)...</p><p></p><p>See PHB only games where not balanced...you could make 3 teirs of power characters...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 4991763, member: 67338"] I have been on the WotC website since the early 3e days... year one there was talk about broken monk and ubber fighter...both seamed so over the top in theory...then around 8-15 months in stories started of the 'win buttons' that were level 5+ spells. I still remember at the same gencon that I got my 3.5 books at I talked to people who called druids a double character...you get your broken caster and your bad ass fighter as a pet... C.o.D. zilla came out as a popular phrase around that time... it orginaly ment Cleric or Druid zilla where the cleric could self buff to being a better fighter then a fighter and still have his spells, well the druid could do so easier... latter when night sticks, and persistant spell came out and clerics could use them to have Divine X (the spell that was +1/3 caster level attack and damage as a luck bonus) Divine power (fighter base attack and +4 str) and Wrightus Might (up one size catagory) up all day for 1 casting each... yea so you have the ability to wear any armor, a fighter base attack, upto +6 attack and damge, and count as large...pluse still have your spells... people then cryed "that is power creep not the class fault" and C.O.dzilla got a new meaning COre Only...and that mostly ment the Druid. At X level (I want to say 7th) You could wild shape into a bear (lots of combat potantial) well calling down lightning and entangling (pretty good casting), and summoning more bears (more good combatabts) with your wolf body guard (equal to most equal level fighters)... See PHB only games where not balanced...you could make 3 teirs of power characters... [/QUOTE]
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