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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 586625" data-attributes="member: 158">Will saves, Will saves, WILL SAVES.Any creature that can charm the giants, and cause them to turn on the party (they ARE mercenaries, after all) will be quite challenging to this group - especially if they charm the Giant Leader.Also, go for natural hazards as opposed to straight combat hazards. The players are probably expecting combat hazards, and are expecting to clean up. Use their expecations and their strengths against them.After all, perhaps the reason Mabron hasn't assimilated the realm is that it contains several gates to the plane of Limbo, and chaos energy makes it too unstable to dominate. Or perhaps another Fey has set up a hidden realms within the chaos. Either way, "Fey" screams "charm the giants," and the chaos bespeaks hazardous conditions. They might never have to lift a sword against another combatant, and STILL have a tough time getting those giants home.</blockquote>