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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7671011" data-attributes="member: 6787650">No, it doesn't change anything important. Most important disagreements with non-idiots are over axioms and definitions, not logic. (This thread is a case in point.) I agree that pemerton is focusing on objective measures of soundness (to continue the analogy), and clearly you agree with that perspective, but all your spell is doing is reifying a particular metalogic. You don't seem to be conscious of the fact that you're relying on a metalogic but it doesn't change the fact that you are, and that other metalogics exist. In fact, you could have spells for other metalogics too--and you could have other goodness-detecting spells in D&D too! "Detect Virtue" = find virgins and those who never lie. Now some Lawful Evil people are objectively Virtuous and some Lawful Good people are objectively non-Virtuous. (In fact, you could even name the new spell Detect Good to be even more confusing.) Just because you have a detector for a phenomenon doesn't mean you have to venerate the quality which is getting detected.Anyway, I didn't want to beat the dead horse any more, and the question-asker has declined to clarify whom he was addressing, so I'll bow out again right here...</blockquote>