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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 2919815" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>We don't? You're making assumptions that might not be universally true for all fantasy universes. Aren't all wizards like Gandalf? He was a good guy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whoa man, what kind of game are you running !? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I get a saving throw, don't I? Pretty much anyone with a gun falls into that category though, and in a general sense I see a gun-wielder taking the same sort of risks as a wizard trying to use charm person. Of course with the gun analogy, it seems natural that if some nasty monster is summoned into the town square, the wizard is going to be the first suspect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"One of them" indicates pretty clearly that in your campaign culture arcane spell casters are seen as outsiders. If your second cousin's uncle's mother is a wizard, then "one of them" is a lot closer to "one of us."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>According to the core rules, anyone with a 10 intelligence can choose the wizard character class AFAIK. Depends what you mean by "can use magic". An arcane spell caster might not be an "alien" creature as much as just have unique training.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In DnD magic works the same for everyone that follows the same rules. Just as technology. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People are critical of magic as technology but it's not that much of a stretch from actual culture. The superstitious practices of people - whether it's throwing salt over your shoulder to ward off a curse, checking your horoscope before taking a job, CAN resemble technology. I'm sure there's some story value to keeping magic wonderous to the *players*, but that doesn't mean that the characters would find it so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You think?! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Any society that expects that it's citizens can elect their leaders IMO takes an optimistic view of human nature. In fact it's the monarchists who argued that people were scumbags in general, and so the ideal was a enlightened despot. Classical liberals take a dim view of government, like the "power corrupts" thing, but not so much of human nature. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'd certainly be looking over my shoulder in your campaign world ! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> "He's a fifth level fighter and can kill many of us commoners in a single round! Get him!!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 2919815, member: 30001"] We don't? You're making assumptions that might not be universally true for all fantasy universes. Aren't all wizards like Gandalf? He was a good guy. Whoa man, what kind of game are you running !? :) I get a saving throw, don't I? Pretty much anyone with a gun falls into that category though, and in a general sense I see a gun-wielder taking the same sort of risks as a wizard trying to use charm person. Of course with the gun analogy, it seems natural that if some nasty monster is summoned into the town square, the wizard is going to be the first suspect. "One of them" indicates pretty clearly that in your campaign culture arcane spell casters are seen as outsiders. If your second cousin's uncle's mother is a wizard, then "one of them" is a lot closer to "one of us." According to the core rules, anyone with a 10 intelligence can choose the wizard character class AFAIK. Depends what you mean by "can use magic". An arcane spell caster might not be an "alien" creature as much as just have unique training. In DnD magic works the same for everyone that follows the same rules. Just as technology. People are critical of magic as technology but it's not that much of a stretch from actual culture. The superstitious practices of people - whether it's throwing salt over your shoulder to ward off a curse, checking your horoscope before taking a job, CAN resemble technology. I'm sure there's some story value to keeping magic wonderous to the *players*, but that doesn't mean that the characters would find it so. You think?! :-) Any society that expects that it's citizens can elect their leaders IMO takes an optimistic view of human nature. In fact it's the monarchists who argued that people were scumbags in general, and so the ideal was a enlightened despot. Classical liberals take a dim view of government, like the "power corrupts" thing, but not so much of human nature. Thanks :) I'd certainly be looking over my shoulder in your campaign world ! :-) "He's a fifth level fighter and can kill many of us commoners in a single round! Get him!!" [/QUOTE]
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