trap interrupting at will.

[soontobe]

Hiya all.
Had a situation where a cleric made a move action, with the intent of casting Sacred flame once positioned. In moving, he set off a dart trap, which did damage and immobilized him. Going through the PHB and DMG, I didnt find anything which explicitly stated that the spell would or would not complete.
Thoughts?

 

[Nifft]

His Move action was interrupted, and his movement was stopped (because he's Immobilized). His Move action is therefore over.

He still has all his other actions left. If he has a Standard action and a power that can reach an enemy, he's free to attack that enemy.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Danceofmasks]

You don't choose all your actions at once.
You execute your move action, and when that's resolved, you take your standard (or minor, or whatever).
4e does things in order.

 

[soontobe]

Thanks guys. Really helpful for this 4ed noob

So, in a related case. If a wizard was casting a spell, and someone used an interrupt to damage him, he would fizzle, but only because it was that action that was interrupted, right?

 

[Danceofmasks]

Well, in 4e damage in and of itself doesn't fizzle spellcasting.
Mages just keep on going .. unless the damaging effect also knocked him unconscious, or stunned, put him in a invincible bubble, etc.

 

[Hammerhead]

Where on Earth are you getting this idea of spells fizzling? The wizard would get damaged by the interrupt, and as long as we was still capable of taking actions, he'd cast the spell.

 

[DracoSuave]

Thanks guys. Really helpful for this 4ed noob

So, in a related case. If a wizard was casting a spell, and someone used an interrupt to damage him, he would fizzle, but only because it was that action that was interrupted, right?

Interrupts -can- potentially invalidate an action.

However, the only way they do so is by making the action impossible or implausible.

There are common ways for this to occur:

You could raise a defense so that a hit becomes a miss.
You could move out of the range or reach of an attack.
You could give the creature a condition that renders the action illegal.
Your interrupt explicitly impedes that particular action.

However, damage in and of itself does not render the action impossible... the results of that damage might, but probably won't... if an attack requires you be non-bloodied, if the damage bloodies you the attack is invalidated, or if the damage renders you dying, then all actions are invalidated.

 

[Nifft]

Thanks guys. Really helpful for this 4ed noob

So, in a related case. If a wizard was casting a spell, and someone used an interrupt to damage him, he would fizzle, but only because it was that action that was interrupted, right?

In 4e, spells are no more special than any other attack power. The Fighter's Cleave won't fizzle (unless an Interrupt renders it invalid -- for example, by stabbing the Fighter unconscious).

Same thing for the Wizard: his spell won't fizzle either (unless an Interrupt renders it invalid -- for example, by stabbing the Wizard unconscious).

4e powers are much more symmetrical. Wizards are no longer special snowflakes who get special rules.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Danceofmasks]

4e powers are much more symmetrical. Wizards are no longer special snowflakes who get special rules.

Orbizard

 

[Infiniti2000]

Where on Earth are you getting this idea of spells fizzling?

The previous editions.