Vampire the Masquerade's origin - is this True???

[Mulciber]

One of the things I love most about Vampire 5th edition is how the text tells us vampires really need to be careful and blend into the population but the photos all depict vampires who would stick out like a sore thumb pretty much everywhere but some very specific setting. No wonder the Second Inquisition is wiping them out, these vampires don't know how to dress like mortals.

Good to know when i make my next character

I had one session with v5 last winter, and that was a bust. I've been biding my time with some VTM:Bloodlines for the twentieth time. A "new" old friend(from my groups v2/Revised days) re-joined and is going to run some v6/v5 at some point. I haven't regularly played Vtm since the late 90s. and that was revised.

but is v6.. the new d20 version.. which i would be against, need to investigate

 

[Mulciber]

I don't find the idea that Blade (1998) may very well have been influenced by Vampire the Masquerade to be unreasonable. The vampires in the movie, structurally speaking, seem to resemble VtM vampires more than they did Marvel vampires from the 1970s. I haven't been able to locate any information about the creators of VtM successfully suing the producers of 1998's Blade. There was a lawsuit from the original creator of Blade, Marv Wolfman, and another by Wesley Snipes himself.

Eh, it's a rather skewed look at the subject practically serving as an advertisement for White Wolf rather than a genuine documentary. Still, it's not the worst thing to watch, I just think it's rather one side and full of itself.

fair, do you have any suggestions on Vtm documentaries?

World of Darkness and Vampire: The Masquerade created a phenomenon in the 1990s - a zeitgeist

It hit me right in the nostalgia dept. I think it was done right in the spirit of the documentaries goal, there was some criticism of white wolf, and watching Mark's emotions about getting fired got me in the feels. I played some 1e, but mostly 2/revised, and everyone i knew was playing - even the folk that avoided mtg and ad&d.. first time in our history we had girls "dying" to play with us!! lol

 

[Staffan]

One of the things I love most about Vampire 5th edition is how the text tells us vampires really need to be careful and blend into the population but the photos all depict vampires who would stick out like a sore thumb pretty much everywhere but some very specific setting. No wonder the Second Inquisition is wiping them out, these vampires don't know how to dress like mortals.

Heh. Reminds me of an episode of Buffy (might be the first one). I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I think Giles takes Buffy to the Bronze, and she identifies someone there as a vampire. Giles asks if she got a mystical sense about him, and she replied that no, it was because he was dressing like it was the 70s.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

Since Vampire the Masquerade was released in 1991, it's kind of hard for it to be based on a 1996 novel.
Same with Werewolf the Apocalypse which was 1992. Someone's just doing shoddy research (or is generating some of their content via AI and its hallucinations).

I suspect that someone asked Chat GTP and it lied as it always do.

 

[Mannahnin]

Also...wouldn't Blade pre-date VtM by at least a decade??

I thought the movie was based off the comic book...so how did VtM win against Blade?

OP clarified his recollections about the legal disputes/claims. Blade the comic book came out in '73 and V:tM in '91, but Blade the movie was clearly influenced by Timothy Bradstreet's art and the world and aesthetic of V:tM.

One of the things I love most about Vampire 5th edition is how the text tells us vampires really need to be careful and blend into the population but the photos all depict vampires who would stick out like a sore thumb pretty much everywhere but some very specific setting. No wonder the Second Inquisition is wiping them out, these vampires don't know how to dress like mortals.

I knew folks who used to joke about this back in '93 and '94 when I was first LARPing. That dressing like an ordinary Joe Schmoe was clearly a better Masquerade than the gothic punk fashion icons shown in the books. Of course, the books DID depict plenty of normal looking vampires, including the Ventrue and Tremere often in business suits.

 

[Sossij]

I knew folks who used to joke about this back in '93 and '94 when I was first LARPing. That dressing like an ordinary Joe Schmoe was clearly a better Masquerade than the gothic punk fashion icons shown in the books. Of course, the books DID depict plenty of normal looking vampires, including the Ventrue and Tremere often in business suits.

It reminds me of the Key and Peele sketch where the new guy convinces them to stop dressing gothic punk and being weirdly horny at all times and gets them to hang out and play Xbox.

 

[Mannahnin]

It reminds me of the Key and Peele sketch where the new guy convinces them to stop dressing gothic punk and being weirdly horny at all times and gets them to hang out and play Xbox.

"Did you get any of that blood actually IN your mouth?!"

...which takes us full circle: Vampire inspiring the aesthetic, folks overdoing it, and Key & Peele parodying the excesses.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

OP clarified his recollections about the legal disputes/claims. Blade the comic book came out in '73 and V:tM in '91, but Blade the movie was clearly influenced by Timothy Bradstreet's art and the aesthetic of V:tM.

Tim Bradstreet's art was mind-blowing when it first started showing up in Vampire and Shadowrun, even the cover of Dragon magazine. Particularly in his B&W pieces, his use of darkness, level of detail, felt like something entirely new. Looking at his vampires, you could imagine them stepping off the page, what their personalities would be. And they just plain looked cool.

I knew folks who used to joke about this back in '93 and '94 when I was first LARPing. That dressing like an ordinary Joe Schmoe was clearly a better Masquerade than the gothic punk fashion icons shown in the books. Of course, the books DID depict plenty of normal looking vampires, including the Ventrue and Tremere often in business suits.

Despite being a Goth kid at the time and a fan of Vampire the Masquerade, I 100% turned my nose up at LARPing. I would complain bitterly about LARPers showing up to play at goth clubs, arguing that our scene was not their set dressing. I was a fussy kid back then.

 

[Mannahnin]

Tim Bradstreet's art was mind-blowing when it first started showing up in Vampire and Shadowrun, even the cover of Dragon magazine. Particularly in his B&W pieces, his use of darkness, level of detail, felt like something entirely new. Looking at his vampires, you could imagine them stepping off the page, what their personalities would be. And they just plain looked cool.


Despite being a Goth kid at the time and a fan of Vampire the Masquerade, I 100% turned my nose up at LARPing. I would complain bitterly about LARPers showing up to play at goth clubs, arguing that our scene was not their set dressing. I was a fussy kid back then.

I was a little younger, I think, and got into it as or just after the LARPers had become unwelcome in clubs due to play annoying other people and being easily confused for people talking about real crimes. So we were mostly in college spaces at night or occasionally rented venues for big events. We played at MIT and Northeastern and BU and the Hawthorne in Salem (among other places), and socializing and dancing at Manray and Ceremony and other spots was a separate thing.