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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Donovan Morningfire" data-source="post: 4751814" data-attributes="member: 39532">I think the biggest gripe some folks have is the Knightly Virtue system, some of which can be quite potent, especially for a character that's not using magic.  The Grail Virtues can be really freaking powerful from the looks of it, but seeing as how my Bretonnian Knight (almost done with my Knight of the Realm career) is going to need another 3000 or so XP to even get to Grail Knight (getting through Questing Knight), which itself is only attainable as a 4th career and pretty much only with GM permission, they probably won't see play that often.As for imbalance of the Bretonnian careers, maybe it's just my limited experience with the system, but all the careers have that issue to some extent or another.  I'd hardly think a Protagonist or Roadwarden or Noble is really all that balanced against a Camp Follower, a Servant, or a Rat Catcher, and those are just starting careers and all in the core book.  Heck, I've seen a lot of complaints over on the old Black Industries forums and other WFRP forums about the Champion, which can be entered as early as your 3rd career if you make the right choices.The setting can be a bit rough I suppose, especially if by virtue of random career selection you wind up with a bunch of commoners and nobleborns, which given the rather strict class/caste system in Bretonnia vs. the much looser guidelines in the Empire could be tough to justify or plan adventures for.Personally, I like the book, as it provides a lot of neat background on Bretonnians, and I've long been a fan of Arthurian lore.  It's also a nice contrast from the Empire, both the good and the bad.</blockquote>

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