What types of races are you tired of seeing?


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Pseudonym said:
Blue Rose looked like it could be interesting, but one of the things I disliked was that they have cats as a player race. Not cat people mind you, but oversized telepathic Siamese cats.

I'd rather play a cat than another bloodly Elf

Actually that does bring up the point about Bipeds - why does every race have to be an upright biped with binocular vision and fine manipulators?

Where are our sentient quadrapeds, cephalapods and disembodied energy form PCs?
 



Hmmm...I never spent much time pulling my hair out over new races. But I've never been a "I got too much stuff!" sort of guy, either. Psychic Ninja Chimp Admiral? I'll play that.

Got to admit I'm over subraces, though. Flavor them up all you want, they invariably become little more than min-max tools, as other people have already noted. Anything that has more than a +2 LA isn't much fun, either.

I've always kind of wanted a cat race, personally, but the only book I own that has one is that durned Mythic Races book, and I find it better for my sanity to pretend it doesn't exist, and never costed me a dime. ;)
 

Mad Mac said:
I've always kind of wanted a cat race, personally, but the only book I own that has one is that durned Mythic Races book, and I find it better for my sanity to pretend it doesn't exist, and never costed me a dime. ;)
Hehe, I can understand your sentiment :D. I didn't even consider buying that one when FFG had their $5 sale ;).
 

BronzeDragon said:
I couldn't agree more.

I would point everyone in the direction of Forrester's lecture on elves, but it, unfortunately, does not exist anywhere on the net anymore (AFAIK).

Yeah, Forrester's elf rant was a classic. I wish I would have saved a copy of it. :(
 
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lmpjr007 said:
OK with the new Arcana Evolved coming out I was wondering what race types are you tired of seeing. I mean this book has as dragon/lizard-man race, a cat-man race, a dog-man race and ect. Now everyone wants to create their own races, but which ones are you tired of seeing all the time? For me, cat races. NO MORE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

  • Elves that aren't better/more-powerful than humans (IMHO, the proper solution for elves in D&D3E was not to de-power them, and in the process de-flavor them, but to give them a LA)
  • comic-relief races. In a realistic world, you don't all laugh and say "ah, shucks, they're just kender--they can't help themselves"--they get enslaved or slaughtered or exiled. Comic-relief characters are fine, even great, but comic-relief species just don't pass the SoD test for me
  • drow. I never thought they were interesting, much less cool. And, the more they got developed, the less cool, and more k3wl--and not in a good way--they became. Give me shadow elves (Mystara) any day, if you want an interesting underground elf subrace.

BTW, your original post is a bit disingenuous, i'd say: you list all the anthropomorphic-animal races in Arcana Evolved, and then say "and etc.", implying that there are a whole slew of them. Probably not what you meant, but for someone who isn't familiar with it, it could easily sound like it has a whole bunch of "furry" races, when it only has those 4, and has a bunch of non-furry races.
 

Elves- there are just too many types of the pointy-eared freaks, and all of them are essentially human hippies with an aptitude for magic and unearned superiority complex. Now, if they elves were portrayed as truly fey (meaning alien mindset and unnerving as they are in myth) it would be a different matter, but the elves of D&D are DULL.

Drow- done to death, boring, predictable, and yet another type of elf.

Half-anythings- a munchkin's dream, and utterly ridiculous at the same time. I mean really, a half-lizardman halfling? Aside from the fact they are two entirely different species, they are also not even in the same FAMILY. The only half-anythings I can see making sense are half-fiends or celetials, or some other outsider, and that only VERY rarely.

on the other hand, I love...

Humans- finally worth playing, and I've found only having humans as a PC race works great, and establishes greater differences in characters than having a multitude of PC races.

Dwarves- these poor guys got no love in 1E and 2E, and now they are very respectable. Dwarves personalities have been hashed out better than elves, but there still is somewhat of a sense of them being "short humans with beards and who love gold and axes".

Gnolls- I don't know what it is, but I've always liked them. No campaign setting has done them justice yet though, nor made them an important part of the world. I'd love to see a few different sub-species of gnolls based on climate and terrain (hyena for arid areas, jackals, wolves, etc).

Skaven and Beastmen from Warhammer- Joshua Dyal already sang their praises, but I just want to add these are "furry races" done right, that are much more that just rat men and goat men.
 

Tonguez said:
I'd rather play a cat than another bloodly Elf

Actually that does bring up the point about Bipeds - why does every race have to be an upright biped with binocular vision and fine manipulators?

Where are our sentient quadrapeds, cephalapods and disembodied energy form PCs?

I couldn't agree more.

There is at least one good jellyfish race in Oathbound, the Ceptu, and they had another race that had no binocular vision, and another with no sex.
 

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