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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 790786" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>I'm going to chime in, as someone who wasn't one of the "old school" Greyhawk fans.</p><p></p><p>While Eric was right about how subsequent authors after Gary took the setting in different directions after he no longer was the guiding hand for the series, one in particular must be mentioned: Rose Estes.</p><p></p><p>Shortly after Gary's Greyhawk books concluded, Rose Estes took over with writing new Greyhawk novels. The best way I can describe them is to borrow a phrase from "Porphyry House of Horrors" adventure in <em>Dungeon</em> #95: To say her work is a boil on an otyugh's ass is to insult otyugh's everywhere. I won't endeavor to explain just why her work is so gut-wrenchingly awful, since it's already done far more eloquently here: <a href="http://www.tc.umn.edu/~monax002/Council/resources/rose/review.html" target="_blank">http://www.tc.umn.edu/~monax002/Council/resources/rose/review.html</a></p><p></p><p>Part of the more recent grousing about Greyhawk is its treatment under the RPGA. Most Greyhawk fans don't like it that their world has been permanently left in "stall", never advancing or growing or changing. That, in fact, growths and changes are still slipped in between the cracks all over the place is little comfort to them (everywhere from new articles in the <em>Living Greyhawk Gazeteer</em> to a new evil Greyhawk deity being obliquely added to the pantheon in the <em>Book of Vile Darkness</em>).</p><p></p><p>All in all, it seems that people are upset that the World of Greyhawk isn't getting its fair share of cohesive, coherent, holistic treatment that will set it on a clear course forward again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 790786, member: 8461"] I'm going to chime in, as someone who wasn't one of the "old school" Greyhawk fans. While Eric was right about how subsequent authors after Gary took the setting in different directions after he no longer was the guiding hand for the series, one in particular must be mentioned: Rose Estes. Shortly after Gary's Greyhawk books concluded, Rose Estes took over with writing new Greyhawk novels. The best way I can describe them is to borrow a phrase from "Porphyry House of Horrors" adventure in [I]Dungeon[/I] #95: To say her work is a boil on an otyugh's ass is to insult otyugh's everywhere. I won't endeavor to explain just why her work is so gut-wrenchingly awful, since it's already done far more eloquently here: [url]http://www.tc.umn.edu/~monax002/Council/resources/rose/review.html[/url] Part of the more recent grousing about Greyhawk is its treatment under the RPGA. Most Greyhawk fans don't like it that their world has been permanently left in "stall", never advancing or growing or changing. That, in fact, growths and changes are still slipped in between the cracks all over the place is little comfort to them (everywhere from new articles in the [I]Living Greyhawk Gazeteer[/I] to a new evil Greyhawk deity being obliquely added to the pantheon in the [I]Book of Vile Darkness[/I]). All in all, it seems that people are upset that the World of Greyhawk isn't getting its fair share of cohesive, coherent, holistic treatment that will set it on a clear course forward again. [/QUOTE]
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