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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ellie_the_Elf" data-source="post: 2437038" data-attributes="member: 17018">He didn't really many have points in what I would consider ranger skills (search, spot, listen, wilderness lore) either, that's the thing. They were in stuff like Hide and bluff. He just had some feat or class ability that gave him +2 to various skills if he was in a wilderness area, which was what made him decide he was a 'wilderness rogue'. I didn't really get what he was aiming for, to be honest. Turanil- at least he tried to fit in  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> I haven't had much problem with weird races ,except one player once asked me if he could play a Curst (an undead which is basically immune to everything unless you cast remove curse anywhere near it, which kills it permanently). We used to have a player in our old group who at various times asked to play a thri-keen, a shade (which he tried to convince the DM didn't have an ECL) and some sort of angel with a +20 ECL in a low level game, with a very strict (PHB races and classes only) DM. And no Drizzt clones, thank goodness.  At least, not yet.Ellie.</blockquote>