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Would you buy 4E if it were not open/had no licenses for 3rd party companies?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4143462" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Thank you for that thoughtful opinion of my sanity concerning this issue. In the future, it would probably be more productive if you didn't start with an insult and considered the possibility that we just don't see some things exactly the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure you would. But, that leaves out something I think is important. The question to me isn't "some level of open" but "how much open".</p><p></p><p>I see in your interpretation as spin. You combined "somewhat open" and "fully open", and pretended like they were equal.</p><p></p><p>And yet, in other threads, you've said loudly and frequently that the two are not the same, and there is a vast gulf of difference between the two, and you are fighting for fully open as opposed to one-off licensing because you care about that difference a lot.</p><p></p><p>Somewhat open, to me, means larger companies will be able to buy a license for individual products. You and I both posited in another thread that Necro would probably be able to do that, regardless of whether or not 4e is "fully open".</p><p></p><p>And I feel fairly confident that sort of this WILL happen with 4e, regardless of an official open license policy. And you also said you thought it likely Necro would be able to pull off a deal like that. So we both agree, at least partially, on that aspect of the issue.</p><p></p><p>And it is also that aspect that some people seem to care about. It's not 25% of people who care about "open". It's not 50% won't buy without "open". The part where it breaks down is when you ask about "fully open", and in that part this poll shows exactly what I said - people really do not care about that aspect as much as you seem to care about it. </p><p></p><p>Which was the focus of my post - what you thought was a "crazy interpretation", despite the fact that elsewhere you seem to feel it's actually quite a relevant issue to consider, and involves a much finer distinction than "open". People care if the generally more established companies be able to publish some 4e stuff, and that can be done through one-off licensing. People do not care much about the game being fully open. Which was my point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4143462, member: 2525"] Thank you for that thoughtful opinion of my sanity concerning this issue. In the future, it would probably be more productive if you didn't start with an insult and considered the possibility that we just don't see some things exactly the same. I'm sure you would. But, that leaves out something I think is important. The question to me isn't "some level of open" but "how much open". I see in your interpretation as spin. You combined "somewhat open" and "fully open", and pretended like they were equal. And yet, in other threads, you've said loudly and frequently that the two are not the same, and there is a vast gulf of difference between the two, and you are fighting for fully open as opposed to one-off licensing because you care about that difference a lot. Somewhat open, to me, means larger companies will be able to buy a license for individual products. You and I both posited in another thread that Necro would probably be able to do that, regardless of whether or not 4e is "fully open". And I feel fairly confident that sort of this WILL happen with 4e, regardless of an official open license policy. And you also said you thought it likely Necro would be able to pull off a deal like that. So we both agree, at least partially, on that aspect of the issue. And it is also that aspect that some people seem to care about. It's not 25% of people who care about "open". It's not 50% won't buy without "open". The part where it breaks down is when you ask about "fully open", and in that part this poll shows exactly what I said - people really do not care about that aspect as much as you seem to care about it. Which was the focus of my post - what you thought was a "crazy interpretation", despite the fact that elsewhere you seem to feel it's actually quite a relevant issue to consider, and involves a much finer distinction than "open". People care if the generally more established companies be able to publish some 4e stuff, and that can be done through one-off licensing. People do not care much about the game being fully open. Which was my point. [/QUOTE]
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