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[Saladrex]

Hi,

Im new in DMing, and I have a doubt about giving XP:

My party of 3 chars lvl 8 (I suppose its Party level 8 right?) defeated 10 soldiers of lvl 4.

Whats the encounter lvl?
1) If we group 4 soldiers in 1 group we would have 2.5 groups of CR 4, so its CR 7 total right? CR 7 for PL 8 its 1600 xp

2) If we count 1 lvl 4 soldier as CR 4 then the XP is (CR4 for PL8)x10 this gives 6000 XP

Which wy is correct?

Thanks.

 

[Forrester]

Hi,

Im new in DMing, and I have a doubt about giving XP:

My party of 3 chars lvl 8 (I suppose its Party level 8 right?) defeated 10 soldiers of lvl 4.

Whats the encounter lvl?
1) If we group 4 soldiers in 1 group we would have 2.5 groups of CR 4, so its CR 7 total right? CR 7 for PL 8 its 1600 xp

2) If we count 1 lvl 4 soldier as CR 4 then the XP is (CR4 for PL8)x10 this gives 6000 XP

Which wy is correct?

Thanks.

One soldier counts as CR4, so the #2 is correct. Four soldiers would count as CR8, roughly. This is assuming that the soldiers were not lame "warriors", but well-equipped (at least as NPCs) fighters with the bonus feats and all that, of course.

 

[the Jester]

You award xp for each creature. EL is just a tool for figuring out how difficult a given encounter is.

So you'll award the party xp for ten CR 4 creatures (assuming they were fightersor some other pc class and not warriors).

 

[kreynolds]

Whats the encounter lvl?
1) If we group 4 soldiers in 1 group we would have 2.5 groups of CR 4, so its CR 7 total right? CR 7 for PL 8 its 1600 xp

You don't calculate XP based on EL. You calculate based upon the CRs of the individual monsters/creatures/npcs/whatever. You can adhoc XP for EL, but that's usually secondary.

2) If we count 1 lvl 4 soldier as CR 4 then the XP is (CR4 for PL8)x10 this gives 6000 XP

Which wy is correct?

This one. Just don't forget to divide the 6,000 by 3. The result is what each party member gets.

EDIT: Damn. Three minutes behind.

 

[Saladrex]

Ok Thanks!

Now it gets bit more difficult:

Actually those 10 Fighters had a Leader, so the encounter was with 11 guys: 10 fighters lvl 4 and 1 fighter lvl 12.
The group (3 guys lvl 8) defeated all 10 fighters lvl 4, but they were defeated by the leader. (1 died, 2 survived between -1 and -9 HP)

So what's the total XP for them (the group)? I would appreciate If you can detil the steps

Thks,

 

[kengar]

If you use DMG Table 4-1 (p.101), 10-12 Lvl 4 (PC class) foes would be a CR11 encounter. If you then look at the section on Rewards (Table 7-1, p.166) that CR11 encounter for an 8th Level party is 7200XP. At least, that's how I read it. I don't use CR XP, so I may be a little rusty on this.

Of course, this is assuming that they encounter all 10 of them at once, which wasn't one of the listed options in the original post.

EDIT: With the leader, use the "Mixed Pair" column on Table 4-1. There isn't an "11+12" option, but it looks like it would fall into the CR13-14 range. That would be 14,400-19,200XP (divided among the party) for the encounter.

For the record, that is one HECK of a rough encounter for three 8th level PCs.

 

[kreynolds]

...they were defeated by the leader...So what's the total XP for them (the group)?

That's up to you. Me? None. They didn't survive. They failed the encounter. They successfully learned how not to fight. Next time, they might benefit from that, but not right now. I'd still give them RP XP though.

(1 died, 2 survived between -1 and -9 HP)

It also depends on how these two survived. If I had to nerf their death to keep them alive, then I wouldn't give them anything but RP. If they survive on their own, I might give them XP for killing the 10 lvl4 guys.

 

[Saladrex]

It also depends on how these two survived. If I had to nerf their death to keep them alive, then I wouldn't give them anything but RP. If they survive on their own, I might give them XP for killing the 10 lvl4 guys.

Well, it's a long story. Basically the guard stopped them because they were suspect of stealing the kings treasure. They didn't surrender and started fighting. The commander didn't want them to die, because he wanted them interrogated, so he took care of them to extract information later.
I think it's fair if I only give the 10 soldiers XP, But I have 2 "experienced" DMs in the group and they say I should give XP for the commander even if they got defeated by him. I didn't see this on the rules, and I'm playing strictly by the rules...
What are your opinion about this?

Thks,

 

[cptg1481]

NPCS and -1 CR

The warriors, if they are true "warriors" as per the class and not fighters, rangers or paladins being refered to genericly as "warriors" are all technically CR3 according to the DMG and therefore 450EXP each that's 3600 total by my reconing....


I chose not to use a period for that sentance sine I'm not sure that it even remotely meets the requirements. UGH, me like 1/2 orc characters...broken thoughts and broken doors....eat.......


Edited.....for 1/2 Orc math 10 bad guys at CR3 for party level 8 = 450 EXP each or 4500EXP.

As for fighting and winning, the real experiance of combat is in the actual act not the winning or loosing, those who survived get thier share no problem.

Unless they learned nothing from this encounter.....

 

[kreynolds]

What are your opinion about this?

Interesting. Given the circumstances of their survival, I wouldn't give them any combat XP. They got their butts kicked.