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<blockquote data-quote="FungiMuncher" data-source="post: 242890" data-attributes="member: 1094"><p>In the campaign I'm currently DMing, I had a new player start out as Chaotic Neutral. And, yeah, he behaved in a rather evil fashion. In his very first session, he was able to isolate one of the other PCs in the back alleys of the main town, and began to torment the character (and player). The tormented player is a kid, about 15 years younger than the new player. Even though the kid had a couple of levels on him, it was probably the real-world age difference why the new player was able to get away with so much (I was thinking/hoping the kid would eventually push back). When this happened, the other players and myself just sat there with blank stares on our faces. I finally had the presence of mind to rule some additional situations to get the kid out of it. Fortunately, the other players were able to convey to the new player that this wasn't acceptable. He eventually changed his alignment to "Chaotic Good," which was actually more Chaotic Neutral as I envisioned it.</p><p></p><p>In my experience, I see players taking Chaotic Neutral only as an excuse to play evil, without labeling it as such. As I see it, a real CN alignment is like a "rebel without a cause" concept. They hate authority, but aren't cruel. I know that many GMs outlaw CN, but I haven't yet. I think, if done right, it could be pretty interesting roleplaying. So, I guess I'm still hopeful. If any players wanted to pick CN in the future, I'm going to need to talk to them about what their idea of what CN is, and decide based on that.</p><p></p><p>In your situation, Marimmar, I would agree that the fighter is moving down a path of evil. I would imagine that a truely neutral character wouldn't have killed the mage. Sure, he would have tried to get his money back. But there are options to killing him. What about marking him as a liar, or ruining his reputaiton in the mages' guild? I'm sure there are lots of others. </p><p></p><p>FM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FungiMuncher, post: 242890, member: 1094"] In the campaign I'm currently DMing, I had a new player start out as Chaotic Neutral. And, yeah, he behaved in a rather evil fashion. In his very first session, he was able to isolate one of the other PCs in the back alleys of the main town, and began to torment the character (and player). The tormented player is a kid, about 15 years younger than the new player. Even though the kid had a couple of levels on him, it was probably the real-world age difference why the new player was able to get away with so much (I was thinking/hoping the kid would eventually push back). When this happened, the other players and myself just sat there with blank stares on our faces. I finally had the presence of mind to rule some additional situations to get the kid out of it. Fortunately, the other players were able to convey to the new player that this wasn't acceptable. He eventually changed his alignment to "Chaotic Good," which was actually more Chaotic Neutral as I envisioned it. In my experience, I see players taking Chaotic Neutral only as an excuse to play evil, without labeling it as such. As I see it, a real CN alignment is like a "rebel without a cause" concept. They hate authority, but aren't cruel. I know that many GMs outlaw CN, but I haven't yet. I think, if done right, it could be pretty interesting roleplaying. So, I guess I'm still hopeful. If any players wanted to pick CN in the future, I'm going to need to talk to them about what their idea of what CN is, and decide based on that. In your situation, Marimmar, I would agree that the fighter is moving down a path of evil. I would imagine that a truely neutral character wouldn't have killed the mage. Sure, he would have tried to get his money back. But there are options to killing him. What about marking him as a liar, or ruining his reputaiton in the mages' guild? I'm sure there are lots of others. FM [/QUOTE]
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