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Old 27th December 2008, 04:41 PM   #121 (permalink)
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OK, I'll agree to that. I've updated it again. Now all we need is its environment and weight and we'll be all set.

Some notes on the Ischigualasto Formation in which Exaeretodon has been found: "In the Carnian (late Triassic) this area was a volcanically active floodplain dominated by rivers and had a strongly seasonal rainfall. Petrified tree trunks of Protojuniperoxylon ischigualastianus more than 40 m (131 ft) tall attest to a rich vegetation at that time. Fossil ferns and horsetails have also been found."

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Old 30th December 2008, 04:21 PM   #122 (permalink)
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So "temperate or warm plains" for the environment?

150 to 200 pounds for weight?
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Weight and environment sound good.
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Old 30th December 2008, 07:29 PM   #124 (permalink)
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I thing they sound good too. Let's put it in Homebrews and call it done.
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Old 30th December 2008, 08:24 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Old 30th December 2008, 10:49 PM   #126 (permalink)
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OK, what's next? Do we want to do the giant cynodont Diademodon, or do we want to move on to the dicynodonts?
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Probably didn't subscribe to this iteration of the thread--last one got closed due to length.
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Old 5th January 2009, 04:46 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Right back at you!

Ready for Diademodon? I can't determine from the link above if it is a herbivore or carnivore. Once we know that, we can "upsize" one of the other cynodonts to get some stats.
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Looks herbivorous to me. Probably wouldn't have said no to the occasional bit of carrion, but not a predator by any means.
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Diademodon was an herbivore (but it had fangs like the other cynodonts), and I've managed to pull up some information about its lifestyle. According to this report on research of isotopes found in its teeth, the place it lived in was arid and seasonal, and it fed mostly in damp shady areas.

As far as its actual statistics go, I'd start out by upsizing our Exaeretodon and go with a total of 5 Hit Dice.

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Let's go 7 HD (where Exaeretodon's HD progression left off)...

Cynodont, Diademodon
Large Animal
Hit Dice: 7d8+35 (66 hp)
Initiative: +0
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 14 (-1 size, +5 natural), touch 9, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+15
Attack: Bite +10 melee (1d6+9)
Full Attack: Bite +10 melee (1d6+9)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent
Saves: Fort +10, Ref +5, Will +3
Abilities: Str 23, Dex 11, Con 21, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 4
Skills: Listen +7, Spot +7
Feats: Alertness, Endurance, 1 more
Environment: Temperate or warm plains
Organization: Solitary, pair, or herd (6-20)
Challenge Rating: 3?
Treasure: None
alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: x
Level Adjustment: —
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Would these be reasonable to haev something like stampede to jazz them up a little?
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We should give these guys stampede like a bison, and Diehard for their other feat. From IPR's info on the isotopic ratios in their teeth, they should live in... hm. Warm and temperate forests? Damp and shady suggests to me lots of plant cover.
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CR 3 is ok, I think. They're basically a bag of hp with a decent bite.
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I'd say CR 4, comparing them to the dire boar. The dire boar does more damage and has a wee bit higher AC, whereas the diademodon has quite a few more HP. Diehard and ferocity are functionally equal.
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The report described the environment as semi-arid and similar to western South Africa today (but a bit drier), so I'm thinking more along the lines of scrubland than forests. Also I have the flavor text ready.


This creature somewhat resembles a huge boar, but it has a more primitive aspect. Its squat, barrel-shaped body bears a coat of fur, and a pair of fangs is just visible poking out of its mouth.

Diademodon is a cynodont, one of the more advanced forms of therapsid (“mammal-like reptile”). Living just before the rise of the first dinosaurs, this cynodont was a hardy nocturnal herbivore.

Diademodon was large for a cynodont, with individuals often growing to the size of a small cow.

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Even though diademodon is an herbivore, its fangs give it a dangerous bite.

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