4e / GSL Advanced Player's Guide questions

[tsadkiel]

I couldn't wait for my preorder, so I snagged the PDF. It's marvelous, but of course there will be questions. Here's mine -

Any way for a Martial Artist to gain an enhancement bonus on their Chi powers? I don't see any reference to any sort of implement. Troubadors have a similar problem, since they don't have any published implements, but other magic items can be reskinned.

EDIT - What paragon paths does a Spellbinder qualify for? EDITEDIT - Already answered in the book. You win this round, Marmell!

[Mouseferatu]

Originally Posted by tsadkiel

Any way for a Martial Artist to gain an enhancement bonus on their Chi powers? I don't see any reference to any sort of implement. Troubadors have a similar problem, since they don't have any published implements, but other magic items can be reskinned.

Yeah, that's about the biggest omission, I'm afraid. When I first designed the classes, I'd planned to talk a little bit about magic items as regards the new classes, but in all the back-and-forth with the companies, and several levels of redesign, it totally slipped off my radar.

Essentially, I suggest making gloves or fist wraps available as magic "weapons." They add their enhancement bonus to attack and damage, but they only work with unarmed attacks. As far as the troubadour, I suggest "reskinning" staffs as standards, and orbs as instruments.

[StickPerson]

Hmmm, items for Martial Artists and Troubadours. Seems like a good opportunity for a web enhancement download...

[Mouseferatu]

Originally Posted by StickPerson

Hmmm, items for Martial Artists and Troubadours. Seems like a good opportunity for a web enhancement download...

Not a bad idea, really. I'm not sure when/if I'd have time for it, but it's something to consider...

[Mouseferatu]

Oh, as far as the reskinning, I'd use holy symbols for the druid's fetishes.

But yeah, it was definitely a mistake for me to neglect a magic item section for this book--at least one giving reskinning advice, if not offering actual new items. Sorry, guys; I've never put together a book quite like this before.

[jensun]

Where did you buy the pdf?

[Mouseferatu]

Originally Posted by jensun

Where did you buy the pdf?

Well, I can't swear this is where he got it, but it's available here: Advanced Player's Guide [XRP8001] - $12.00 : Your Games Now, Publisher Co-Op

[MerricB]

Bought! Downloaded!

Wow... Ari, congratulations on the Lingering Injury rules! They look fantastic. Have you been using them in your games?

Cheers!

[garyh]

I stuck to the hard copy version and can't wait to get this in my hands as soon as the USPS can manage.

[Mouseferatu]

Originally Posted by MerricB

Bought! Downloaded!

Wow... Ari, congratulations on the Lingering Injury rules! They look fantastic. Have you been using them in your games?

I haven't, actually, since A) I haven't been running (though I'm about to start), and B) Most of my group aren't into the "grim-n-gritty" style.

But I'd love to do so.

[Lord Tirian]

Originally Posted by Mouseferatu

Essentially, I suggest making gloves or fist wraps available as magic "weapons." They add their enhancement bonus to attack and damage, but they only work with unarmed attacks. As far as the troubadour, I suggest "reskinning" staffs as standards, and orbs as instruments.

Concerning this: Does cloth armour count as "armour" for untouchable?

Because technically speaking, it is armour as well (which is why all characters receive proficiency with it)... I reckon that clothing (though also classified as "cloth armour") definitively isn't armour - but what about the masterwork versions?

But I'm impressed by the book in general. The races martial artist and savage warrior are a bit bland (even for generic classes), but the rest is good stuff. And I love the extra rules (crafting, rituals, lingering injury), they really make the book for me! Acrobat is also a neat Paragon Path.

Though I have to admit, I've grown to like the 4E presentation, the book (as PDF) is certainly harder on the eyes and less easy to digest - but then, it of course has a different scope than a full PHB made by WotC.

Cheers, LT.

[MerricB]

I ran into one power that made me go huh? The troubadour's "Glib Tongue". 10th level? Really? (I was comparing it to the Paladin's 2nd level Astral Speech).

I guess a lot of the design work was done before 4e was properly released, Ari?

Cheers!

[Mouseferatu]

Originally Posted by Lord Tirian

Concerning this: Does cloth armour count as "armour" for untouchable?

No, it doesn't. Sorry for not making that clearer.

Originally Posted by MerricB

I ran into one power that made me go huh? The troubadour's "Glib Tongue". 10th level? Really? (I was comparing it to the Paladin's 2nd level Astral Speech).

I guess a lot of the design work was done before 4e was properly released, Ari?

Yeah, it was, and a lot of numbers changed even up to the last minute.

I'd suggest upping the bonuses granted by glib tongue to +4.

[tsadkiel]

Originally Posted by Mouseferatu

Well, I can't swear this is where he got it, but it's available here: Advanced Player's Guide [XRP8001] - $12.00 : Your Games Now, Publisher Co-Op

I can swear that's where I got it.

Thanks, Ari! It's great to be able to get answers like this straight from the author.

[tsadkiel]

Originally Posted by Mouseferatu

Oh, as far as the reskinning, I'd use holy symbols for the druid's fetishes.

Heh. I didn't even notice that one - I guess I'd already made the conversion in my head.

[Gothmog]

Congrats on the release of the APG Ari and Joe! I got mine in today, and I have to say, you knocked the ball out of the part on the APG Ari! Great job. I love the way you took the Nature Priest and Spellbinder- they scream 1e druid and illusionist.

[StickPerson]

So I just ordered my copy. Can’t wait for its arrival, druid and barbarian like characters are sorely missed by me and I look forward to the spellbinder.

Ari, can you tell us about any other 4th edition projects you have in the works?

[GMforPowergamers]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Congrats on the release of the APG Ari and Joe! I got mine in today, and I have to say, you knocked the ball out of the part on the APG Ari! Great job. I love the way you took the Nature Priest and Spellbinder- they scream 1e druid and illusionist.

I preordered at the begining of Sept...I know Mega loth you for getting it...I am on pins an needles...

[Mouseferatu]

Originally Posted by StickPerson

Ari, can you tell us about any other 4th edition projects you have in the works?

Well, let's see...

I can talk about some of the stuff that's already been announced. I worked on Draconomicon I, and both the Player's Guide and Campaign Setting for Eberron. I've just finished up work on another book, I'm talking to the WotC folks about another one, and I've got several articles and adventures coming up for Dragon and Dungeon. But since none of those have been publicly announced, I'm afraid I can't talk about what they are.

I also did a bit of work for Code Monkey's upcoming 4E Blackmoor conversion.

[Spatula]

Love the idea of the monk's bonus striker damage - at first I didn't even realize that's what it was, thinking it was some oddly weak attack power... Clever and fits in nicely with the flavor of the class.