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27th October 2008, 05:21 PM
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| | Benevolent Despot
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| CCF refused D&D donations
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27th October 2008, 05:51 PM
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| Intolerance - 1
Needy children - 0 
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27th October 2008, 05:56 PM
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| Everytime I think we're past this sort of stigma, someone goes and hands the hobby a sign reading "Unclean".
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27th October 2008, 05:58 PM
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| | Familiar Extraordinaire
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| I guess if people who play D&D give money to needy children, the needy children will be tainted by the money and use it to play D&D as well.
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27th October 2008, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Brown Jenkin  I guess if people who play D&D give money to needy children, the needy children will be tainted by the money and use it to play D&D as well. | Well, if we can get the needy children to play D&D, they will learn the black arts and then they won't be needy; they could simply ensnare CCF workers with their dark magic and take what they want. I smell a new charity! | |
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27th October 2008, 06:15 PM
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| | The GSL is not a gift
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Originally Posted by Androlphas Intolerance - 1
Needy children - 0 | I am really dismayed. My wife and I give to that specific charity, but not done in the name of DnD obviously, so they're all too willing to accept it.
I just don't know if I can support a charity that can not seperate reality from fantasy, or is easily swayed by ignorance and misinformation.
This is worse than the time that my personal faith was called into question by a co-worker because my wife and I went to see the DaVinci Code at the movie theatre.
Very upset. I'm seriously considering writing them a letter and telling them why I can't support them any longer.
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27th October 2008, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Admiral Caine Very upset. I'm seriously considering writing them a letter and telling them why I can't support them any longer. | I would if I were you. Charities rely on donations. If they don't realize certain actions are losing them donations, they have not reason to stop.
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27th October 2008, 06:31 PM
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| | Benevolent Despot
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Originally Posted by Admiral Caine Very upset. I'm seriously considering writing them a letter and telling them why I can't support them any longer. | Great idea, mine will go out shortly. | |
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27th October 2008, 06:34 PM
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| Over on a similar thread to this one on RPG.net, a Christian gamer wrote a really eloquent letter IMO to CCF. I'd base any correspondence off that one, its pretty good stuff.
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27th October 2008, 06:39 PM
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| Man, that's depressing ...
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27th October 2008, 06:52 PM
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| *sigh...
As a Christian Gamer, I normally find myself trying to defend Christians when some over-zealous gamer starts to slam them as intollerant of our hobby. This however leaves even me with nothing to say in defense. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shroomy Over on a similar thread to this one on RPG.net, a Christian gamer wrote a really eloquent letter IMO to CCF. I'd base any correspondence off that one, its pretty good stuff. | Linky?
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27th October 2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkwolf71 Linky? | Here you go. I would have done this earlier, but it takes forever for me to get to the RPG.net forums when I'm at work.
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27th October 2008, 07:52 PM
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| | Optimised for meatspace
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Originally Posted by FATDRAGONGAMES | Why don't you point it out to them and ask for it back?
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27th October 2008, 08:00 PM
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| | The GSL is not a gift
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| Thanks for the Link Shroomy.. Not only is it a good letter, but all the appropriate contacts are there too.
I'm going to double check that CCF is the specific Fund that we donate to first, when I get home from work this afternoon.. That would be embarrassing if I am getting CCF mixed up with another organization.
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27th October 2008, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Shroomy Here you go. I would have done this earlier, but it takes forever for me to get to the RPG.net forums when I'm at work. | Thank ye.
That's a pretty good letter. I will have to send one of my own.
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27th October 2008, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Admiral Caine Thanks for the Link Shroomy.. Not only is it a good letter, but all the appropriate contacts are there too.
I'm going to double check that CCF is the specific Fund that we donate to first, when I get home from work this afternoon.. That would be embarrassing if I am getting CCF mixed up with another organization. | If that turns out to be the case, I think a letter would be in order. They might want some statistics on the estimated number of Americans that actively play D&D (I read somewhere around a million) and how many of them are normal people who have an education, and a family, and want to help take care of the unfortunate. Many of them are even of the same faith (though many of us also are not). Finally, I would probably consider giving your money to a different charity and mention this in the letter. Let them know that you find this situation sad and unnecessary.
I'd write them myself, but as a non-Christian, my ethos with them would be lacking. | |
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27th October 2008, 08:31 PM
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| Hmmm, on their website they specifically mention a visit by a former Mattel executive on the news page. Somebody should tell them that Mattel makes Masters of the Universe toys. | |
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27th October 2008, 09:12 PM
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| Can anyone direct me to copy sent by the Christian Children's Fund?
Everything I've read through so far by following links has been hearsay and speculation as to the cause of them declining the donation.
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27th October 2008, 09:31 PM
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| | The GSL is not a gift
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Originally Posted by mlund Can anyone direct me to copy sent by the Christian Children's Fund?
Everything I've read through so far by following links has been hearsay and speculation as to the cause of them declining the donation.
- Marty Lund | That's a worthwhile point. If such copy exists, I'd like to see it too.
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27th October 2008, 09:39 PM
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