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3rd December 2008, 04:19 PM
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#101 (permalink)
| | The GSL is not a gift
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| My condolences to the whole lot of them.
There's been a few comments about Randy Buehler. I never knew of him from any place but DDInsider. However I wanted to say that once he relaunched the DDI project with his weekly Wednesday columns, I felt a lot more confident about the direction DDI was going in.
I liked him, and I didn't have any baggage coming in with me when I made that assessment. The last few months of DDI have seemed better and stronger, and I was getting hopeful. I credit Randy Buehler for that, right or for wrong.
Getting laid off is hard on anybody. Most people take a job hoping to do well at it.
My best wishes to all of them during this time.
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3rd December 2008, 04:21 PM
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#102 (permalink)
| | High Captain
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| Major layoffs during the 3e era created some award-winning game companies: Green Ronin, Malhavoc Games, and quite a few more. I can only hope that layoffs during the 4e era do the same.
23 folks were laid off, I believe. Painful.
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3rd December 2008, 04:23 PM
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#103 (permalink)
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| My condolences to all who was laid off. That sucks.
Here's to hoping that you don't stay unemployed too long!
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3rd December 2008, 04:24 PM
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#104 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sheridan  A toy company that lays its workers off at the start of the Christmas season...
...how utterly devoid of a soul Hasbro/Wizards must be...
*Sheridan | The worst part is: they couldn't even wait until Friday afternoon to do it! | |
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3rd December 2008, 04:28 PM
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#105 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Piratecat Major layoffs during the 3e era created some award-winning game companies: Green Ronin, Malhavoc Games, and quite a few more. I can only hope that layoffs during the 4e era do the same. | Indeed...I don't think we have seen the last of these brilliant designers.
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3rd December 2008, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Melba Toast The worst part is: they couldn't even wait until Friday afternoon to do it! | It's become fairly standard to do layoffs and firings mid-week.
I wish those affected by the recent layoff the best of luck and hope to once again see their names on products I enjoy.
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3rd December 2008, 04:32 PM
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#107 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Piratecat
23 folks were laid off
| How many people does Wotc employ? I have no true idea but this seems like a big part of their staff regarding the image I have had. | |
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3rd December 2008, 04:35 PM
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#108 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by xechnao How many people does Wotc employ? | I believe it is somewhere around 300 people work at Wizards of the Coast in Renton, Washington, USA. Maybe as few as 250. | |
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3rd December 2008, 04:47 PM
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#109 (permalink)
| | The GSL is not a gift
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| Does anybody know if Cort Odekirk was among those that were laid off?
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3rd December 2008, 05:02 PM
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#110 (permalink)
| | Solo Minion
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|  Crap. My condolences to all those affected. Quote:
Originally Posted by xechnao How many people does Wotc employ? I have no true idea but this seems like a big part of their staff regarding the image I have had. | Wizards is in this building, occupying two floors and part of a third. 23 is probably quite a bit, but I guess it isn't quite the blow you thought it was. | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:07 PM
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| I remember Julia Martin for her excellent "Faiths & Avatars" sourcebook.
My condolences to all those who are affected! | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:29 PM
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#112 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Thieran I remember Julia Martin for her excellent "Faiths & Avatars" sourcebook. | That, and many other things.
If I may: Take a moment, and look through your stack of D&D game books for the last seventeen years, particularly the Forgotten Realms products. Pick out your favorites. And then look at the credits page where you rarely go, and read the editors' names. Julia's will be there more often than not.
She is one of the most experienced and dedicated editors I know, and she will be sorely missed.
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3rd December 2008, 05:33 PM
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#113 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by WotC_Miko If I may: Take a moment, and look through your stack of D&D game books for the last seventeen years, particularly the Forgotten Realms products. Pick out your favorites. And then look at the credits page where you rarely go, and read the editors' names. Julia's will be there more often than not.
She is one of the most experienced and dedicated editors I know, and she will be sorely missed. | A few years ago I joked to Michelle that I was an editing fanboy; editing usually is the deciding factor in whether I enjoy reading a book or not, and the editor is usually an unsung hero in a book's success. I'm really going to miss Julia.
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3rd December 2008, 05:39 PM
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#114 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Admiral Caine
There's been a few comments about Randy Buehler. I never knew of him from any place but DDInsider. However I wanted to say that once he relaunched the DDI project with his weekly Wednesday columns, I felt a lot more confident about the direction DDI was going in.
I liked him, and I didn't have any baggage coming in with me when I made that assessment. The last few months of DDI have seemed better and stronger, and I was getting hopeful. I credit Randy Buehler for that, right or for wrong. | There is no question it is better. But the early days, were pretty rough. | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:43 PM
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#115 (permalink)
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| Very sad news indeed.
My heart goes out to the folks (and their families) who have lost their livelihoods, because of poor decisions made by others. | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:44 PM
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#116 (permalink)
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| God bless all those affected. | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:44 PM
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#117 (permalink)
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| I was expecting an announcement like this soon, but some of the names on the list astound me. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
David Noonan, Julia Martin, Stacy Longstreet... Jonathon Tweet(!), an icon. Wow. Just wow. That'd be like White Wolf announcing that Ethan Skemp was getting the boot.
I've got tons of respect for the rest of the team still soldiering on, but this is definitely the end of an era, and I feel sad to have seen it come.
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3rd December 2008, 05:49 PM
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#118 (permalink)
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| Wow does this suck. I loved listening to Dave on the D&D Podcast. I couldn't imagine being laid off at a time like this. And the people on that list is insane! Best of luck to everyone in finding a new job. | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:51 PM
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#119 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Piratecat Major layoffs during the 3e era created some award-winning game companies: Green Ronin, Malhavoc Games, and quite a few more. I can only hope that layoffs during the 4e era do the same.
23 folks were laid off, I believe. Painful. | Wise words from the Kitty. Put those names together and think what they might produce as a solo team, unfettered by corporate constraints! 
Best wishes to all those that were laid off today. | |
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3rd December 2008, 05:53 PM
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#120 (permalink)
| | The GSL is not a gift
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Originally Posted by TerraDave There is no question it is better. But the early days, were pretty rough. |
I accept that then, in the spirit that things were improving.
My hope is that DDI doesn't suffer a setback because of the layoffs/restructuring.
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