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i think someone just posted first and other sellers just posted with similar prices.
but, it's no where near that valuable, even to collectors... i would imagine anyway.
but i guess each person's sense of value is personal...
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You know, I bought multiples of the first 3 or 4 sets, and have at least one of each still in plastic, so if anyone wants to PM me an offer feel free. The closer it is to that AMazon price the more likely I'll agree to sell it.
I actually like and use mine, and have an expectation to open all of them some day, so any offers will have to be at least a little crazy for me to consider selling.
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FWIW, a year or so ago, there was a similar discussion about the price of the first set of Dungeon Tiles (out of print at that point, too) and we determined at that time that all the instances of these tiles being sold at this price (~$125 then, IIRC) could be traced to a single online seller who used the same store name on both Amazon and eBay. Maybe this is no longer the case, but I suspect it's still a factor.
Tac Tiles prices make me want to hunt down the IP owners, buy the rights, and start selling new ones myself!
I researched the patent data base. They do not own the idea/concept. The closest was some type of construction tile company. I also searched the Trademark and copyright data bases, and their name is not registered either.
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I researched the patent data base. They do not own the idea/concept. The closest was some type of construction tile company. I also searched the Trademark and copyright data bases, and their name is not registered either.
There is no copyright database for names, and copyright isn't for names. You automatically own a copyright once you publish something.
They do own the trademark, just not a federally registered one. But, that does not mean they have no trademark.
Regardless, it would be darn rude to do it without permission of the inventor. They made a great product. If they do not make it or cannot make it anymore, perhaps they would be happy to let it go to someone else or accept a small percentage of the profits. But the right thing to do is to talk to them about it first.
The only set that you can't easily find online for cheap now is the very first set. That one's a pain. I haven't found it anywhere for less than $35-40 or so, and I looked at a LOT of places. I refuse to pay that much for some dungeon tiles, so I just use the tiles from all of the other sets.
Sets two through the current one are all pretty widely available at various places on the Internet for about $7-9 per set, and it's not hard to get free shipping, too, if you're buying more than just one or two products. I just bought a bunch of them very recently.
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There is no copyright database for names, and copyright isn't for names. You automatically own a copyright once you publish something.
They do own the trademark, just not a federally registered one. But, that does not mean they have no trademark.
Regardless, it would be darn rude to do it without permission of the inventor. They made a great product. If they do not make it or cannot make it anymore, perhaps they would be happy to let it go to someone else or accept a small percentage of the profits. But the right thing to do is to talk to them about it first.
I actually know what I am talking about. Sorry for what I originally wrote, it was 1:30 AM or later, and I had maybe 4 hours of sleep the night before, so I was being, um, "short". So my apologies to anyone I may have offended.
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And here is why if they did not register their trademark no one cares:
Is registration of my mark required?
No. You can establish rights in a mark based on legitimate use of the mark. However, owning a federal trademark registration on the Principal Register provides several advantages, e.g.,
* constructive notice to the public of the registrant's claim of ownership of the mark;
* a legal presumption of the registrant's ownership of the mark and the registrant's exclusive right to use the mark nationwide on or in connection with the goods and/or services listed in the registration;
* the ability to bring an action concerning the mark in federal court;
* the use of the U.S registration as a basis to obtain registration in foreign countries; and
* the ability to file the U.S. registration with the U.S. Customs Service to prevent importation of infringing foreign goods.
I may not be a lawyer, but I do read, and am able to comprehend what I read when its in english.
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Holy crap! This is the only dungeon tiles set I bought. I bought it 3 times though. I have it here sitting in an old empty magic box. Got all 3 sets for $12 each.
I'll be taking bids for the lot!
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Tac Tiles prices make me want to hunt down the IP owners, buy the rights, and start selling new ones myself!
I think that Paizo are considering it (and Tinkered Tactics, that make the excellent Combat Tiers, also considered it but couldn't contact the IP holders).
I am pretty sure that something like them is going to get made again sooner or later, anyhow.
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